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| Subject: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:42 am | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:49 am | |
| Most underrated is Bisping imo
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MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:51 am | |
| I think we all found out who had overrated striking during the last ppv- Cowboy, and I'm a big fan of his to | |
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| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:54 am | |
| You think his striking is more overrated than Rampage's?
I was thinking Bisping and Mir for most underrated. |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:00 am | |
| Atleast to me yeah Cowboys striking was more overrated than anyone I can think of. I mean he was a undefeated kickboxer, Looked great on the feet usually. Maybe it was just me but I fell for it. | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:08 am | |
| And I disagree that Rampage has overrated striking, he's always been a good boxer with alot of power. He might not have a recent KO but I think thats more because his opponents are successfully avoiding his power. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:17 am | |
| - MMAEYES wrote:
- Atleast to me yeah Cowboys striking was more overrated than anyone I can think of. I mean he was a undefeated kickboxer, Looked great on the feet usually. Maybe it was just me but I fell for it.
I wouldn't give up on Cerrone too fast. For one Diaz is a excellent striker. 2nd, I think the idea that Cowboy had been fighting too much over the past year is a legit one, and it would not be unexpected to see that come out against a high tempo/high stamina guy like Nate. | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:20 am | |
| Overrated - Jones
Underrated - Sonnen (I think he shocks some people versus Bisping) | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:24 am | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:25 am | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- Overrated - Jones
Underrated - Sonnen (I think he shocks some people versus Bisping) Not that I don't think his striking is good, but I don't think his striking alone is elite. I think Overeem or JDS put him to sleep in a boxing or K1 fight. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:26 am | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- Overrated - Jones
Underrated - Sonnen (I think he shocks some people versus Bisping) Freak u should not be shocked by irrational dislike of Jones. | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts : 3973 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 42 Location : London,Ohio
| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:26 am | |
| - captain organic wrote:
- MMAEYES wrote:
- Atleast to me yeah Cowboys striking was more overrated than anyone I can think of. I mean he was a undefeated kickboxer, Looked great on the feet usually. Maybe it was just me but I fell for it.
I wouldn't give up on Cerrone too fast. For one Diaz is a excellent striker. 2nd, I think the idea that Cowboy had been fighting too much over the past year is a legit one, and it would not be unexpected to see that come out against a high tempo/high stamina guy like Nate. I don't mean to say that I think his striking sucks now it's just nowhere near the level I thought it was and I don't think stamina had anything to do with it, Cowboy wasn't tired at all he was just getting his ass kicked and had no answer for it. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:28 am | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- Overrated - Jones
Underrated - Sonnen (I think he shocks some people versus Bisping) Not that I don't think his striking is good, but I don't think his striking alone is elite. I think Overeem or JDS put him to sleep in a boxing or K1 fight. But no one puts Jones striking on their par. Not too mention he'd be giving up 30 lbs vs Reem. | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:29 am | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- Farmer1906 wrote:
- Overrated - Jones
Underrated - Sonnen (I think he shocks some people versus Bisping) Not that I don't think his striking is good, but I don't think his striking alone is elite. I think Overeem or JDS put him to sleep in a boxing or K1 fight. their not in the same fucking weight class, what da fuck u talking aboot? | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:31 am | |
| look who Jones went through last year, this is one of the most ridiculous posts ive seen from you Farmer... god damn! disgusting, brah | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:35 am | |
| - MMAEYES wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- MMAEYES wrote:
- Atleast to me yeah Cowboys striking was more overrated than anyone I can think of. I mean he was a undefeated kickboxer, Looked great on the feet usually. Maybe it was just me but I fell for it.
I wouldn't give up on Cerrone too fast. For one Diaz is a excellent striker. 2nd, I think the idea that Cowboy had been fighting too much over the past year is a legit one, and it would not be unexpected to see that come out against a high tempo/high stamina guy like Nate.
I don't mean to say that I think his striking sucks now it's just nowhere near the level I thought it was and I don't think stamina had anything to do with it, Cowboy wasn't tired at all he was just getting his ass kicked and had no answer for it. I don't think he was so much tired as it was just not being at his peak. Not having that little extra. And I do think Stamina(and chin) play a role in that, where as Cerrone could typically overwhelm a fighter once they lose their initial edge, that's not happening vs Diaz. And I for one never thought Cerrone was an elite striker anyway, good, and def a very tough guy, but I prob viewed him as a step below Diaz in this dept to begin with. | |
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| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:35 am | |
| Overrated- GSP Underrated- Condit | |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts : 3973 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 42 Location : London,Ohio
| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:36 am | |
| - captain organic wrote:
- MMAEYES wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- MMAEYES wrote:
- Atleast to me yeah Cowboys striking was more overrated than anyone I can think of. I mean he was a undefeated kickboxer, Looked great on the feet usually. Maybe it was just me but I fell for it.
I wouldn't give up on Cerrone too fast. For one Diaz is a excellent striker. 2nd, I think the idea that Cowboy had been fighting too much over the past year is a legit one, and it would not be unexpected to see that come out against a high tempo/high stamina guy like Nate.
I don't mean to say that I think his striking sucks now it's just nowhere near the level I thought it was and I don't think stamina had anything to do with it, Cowboy wasn't tired at all he was just getting his ass kicked and had no answer for it. I don't think he was so much tired as it was just not being at his peak. Not having that little extra.
And I do think Stamina(and chin) play a role in that, where as Cerrone could typically overwhelm a fighter once they lose their initial edge, that's not happening vs Diaz.
And I for one never thought Cerrone was an elite striker anyway, good, and def a very tough guy, but I prob viewed him as a step below Diaz in this dept to begin with. Thats a good point, your right about that | |
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| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:36 am | |
| I'm not a Jones fan but the guy is arguably the best MMA fighter in the world and no one has ever put his striking up with Overeem and JDS. To say his striking is overrated is crazy. |
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| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:38 am | |
| - OU wrote:
- Overrated- GSP
Underrated- Condit Oh no he didn't! |
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MMAEYES Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, FEDOR, NICK DIAZ Posts : 3973 Join date : 2009-08-13 Age : 42 Location : London,Ohio
| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:42 am | |
| - OU wrote:
- Overrated- GSP
Underrated- Condit Now that I can roll with you know whats up OU! | |
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| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:50 am | |
| Daley's striking was ridiculously overrated by Rogan, didn't he claim his striking was sensational or something ? |
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| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:52 am | |
| I think Rogan compared Terry Martin to Mike Tyson before. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:53 am | |
| - Ali wrote:
- Daley's striking was ridiculously overrated by Rogan, didn't he claim his striking was sensational or something ?
ha, I don't think we should be using Rogan's in fight analysis to value that fighters skills. But I think Daley is a good striker. Certainly a dangerous one. | |
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