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Most underrated is Bisping imo
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PostSubject: Re: Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers?   Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? EmptyWed Jan 25, 2012 10:51 am

I think we all found out who had overrated striking during the last ppv- Cowboy, and I'm a big fan of his to
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You think his striking is more overrated than Rampage's?

I was thinking Bisping and Mir for most underrated.
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Atleast to me yeah Cowboys striking was more overrated than anyone I can think of. I mean he was a undefeated kickboxer, Looked great on the feet usually. Maybe it was just me but I fell for it.
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And I disagree that Rampage has overrated striking, he's always been a good boxer with alot of power. He might not have a recent KO but I think thats more because his opponents are successfully avoiding his power.
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Atleast to me yeah Cowboys striking was more overrated than anyone I can think of. I mean he was a undefeated kickboxer, Looked great on the feet usually. Maybe it was just me but I fell for it.

I wouldn't give up on Cerrone too fast. For one Diaz is a excellent striker. 2nd, I think the idea that Cowboy had been fighting too much over the past year is a legit one, and it would not be unexpected to see that come out against a high tempo/high stamina guy like Nate.
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Overrated - Jones

Underrated - Sonnen (I think he shocks some people versus Bisping)
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Farmer1906 wrote:
Overrated - Jones

Underrated - Sonnen (I think he shocks some people versus Bisping)

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Most Overated and Underated MMA Strikers? 9k=
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Overrated - Jones

Underrated - Sonnen (I think he shocks some people versus Bisping)

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Not that I don't think his striking is good, but I don't think his striking alone is elite. I think Overeem or JDS put him to sleep in a boxing or K1 fight.
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freakzilla wrote:
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Overrated - Jones

Underrated - Sonnen (I think he shocks some people versus Bisping)

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Freak u should not be shocked by irrational dislike of Jones.
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Atleast to me yeah Cowboys striking was more overrated than anyone I can think of. I mean he was a undefeated kickboxer, Looked great on the feet usually. Maybe it was just me but I fell for it.

I wouldn't give up on Cerrone too fast. For one Diaz is a excellent striker. 2nd, I think the idea that Cowboy had been fighting too much over the past year is a legit one, and it would not be unexpected to see that come out against a high tempo/high stamina guy like Nate.


I don't mean to say that I think his striking sucks now it's just nowhere near the level I thought it was and I don't think stamina had anything to do with it, Cowboy wasn't tired at all he was just getting his ass kicked and had no answer for it.
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Overrated - Jones

Underrated - Sonnen (I think he shocks some people versus Bisping)

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Not that I don't think his striking is good, but I don't think his striking alone is elite. I think Overeem or JDS put him to sleep in a boxing or K1 fight.

But no one puts Jones striking on their par. Not too mention he'd be giving up 30 lbs vs Reem.
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Overrated - Jones

Underrated - Sonnen (I think he shocks some people versus Bisping)

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Not that I don't think his striking is good, but I don't think his striking alone is elite. I think Overeem or JDS put him to sleep in a boxing or K1 fight.
their not in the same fucking weight class, what da fuck u talking aboot?
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look who Jones went through last year, this is one of the most ridiculous posts ive seen from you Farmer... god damn! disgusting, brah
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Atleast to me yeah Cowboys striking was more overrated than anyone I can think of. I mean he was a undefeated kickboxer, Looked great on the feet usually. Maybe it was just me but I fell for it.

I wouldn't give up on Cerrone too fast. For one Diaz is a excellent striker. 2nd, I think the idea that Cowboy had been fighting too much over the past year is a legit one, and it would not be unexpected to see that come out against a high tempo/high stamina guy like Nate.


I don't mean to say that I think his striking sucks now it's just nowhere near the level I thought it was and I don't think stamina had anything to do with it, Cowboy wasn't tired at all he was just getting his ass kicked and had no answer for it.

I don't think he was so much tired as it was just not being at his peak. Not having that little extra.

And I do think Stamina(and chin) play a role in that, where as Cerrone could typically overwhelm a fighter once they lose their initial edge, that's not happening vs Diaz.

And I for one never thought Cerrone was an elite striker anyway, good, and def a very tough guy, but I prob viewed him as a step below Diaz in this dept to begin with.
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Overrated- GSP
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Atleast to me yeah Cowboys striking was more overrated than anyone I can think of. I mean he was a undefeated kickboxer, Looked great on the feet usually. Maybe it was just me but I fell for it.

I wouldn't give up on Cerrone too fast. For one Diaz is a excellent striker. 2nd, I think the idea that Cowboy had been fighting too much over the past year is a legit one, and it would not be unexpected to see that come out against a high tempo/high stamina guy like Nate.


I don't mean to say that I think his striking sucks now it's just nowhere near the level I thought it was and I don't think stamina had anything to do with it, Cowboy wasn't tired at all he was just getting his ass kicked and had no answer for it.

I don't think he was so much tired as it was just not being at his peak. Not having that little extra.

And I do think Stamina(and chin) play a role in that, where as Cerrone could typically overwhelm a fighter once they lose their initial edge, that's not happening vs Diaz.

And I for one never thought Cerrone was an elite striker anyway, good, and def a very tough guy, but I prob viewed him as a step below Diaz in this dept to begin with.

Thats a good point, your right about that
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I'm not a Jones fan but the guy is arguably the best MMA fighter in the world and no one has ever put his striking up with Overeem and JDS. To say his striking is overrated is crazy.
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Overrated- GSP
Underrated- Condit

Oh no he didn't!
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Overrated- GSP
Underrated- Condit


Now that I can roll with Thumbs Up you know whats up OU!
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Daley's striking was ridiculously overrated by Rogan, didn't he claim his striking was sensational or something ?
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I think Rogan compared Terry Martin to Mike Tyson before.
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Ali wrote:
Daley's striking was ridiculously overrated by Rogan, didn't he claim his striking was sensational or something ?


ha, I don't think we should be using Rogan's in fight analysis to value that fighters skills.

But I think Daley is a good striker. Certainly a dangerous one.
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