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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptyFri Dec 03, 2010 9:39 pm

bobbitt15 wrote:
I've never really seen credible rankings for any sport that had ties featured in them

Listing out our BW top 10 as 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,9 just looks cheesedick to me

In college football if the teams are tied in the poll it is listed as a tie. They both get the same # ranking.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptyFri Dec 03, 2010 10:02 pm

True but with 25 teams it almost never happens. We have it in like half our divisions and it would just look silly to put them up that way. I'd rather have polls to vote on who people think should be ranked the higher of the two. Not sure how credible our rankings would look when we can't even decide on a 1-10 in half the divisions
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptyFri Dec 03, 2010 10:03 pm

bobbitt15 wrote:
True but with 25 teams it almost never happens. We have it in like half our divisions and it would just look silly to put them up that way

yeah good point.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 12:10 am

I see no problem showing ties. (though I don't have a problem with a vote off to determine the higher ranked guy either)

I see no problem having a guy ranked in two different divisions.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 12:31 am

It looks stupid having BJ Penn that low at Lightweight because everyone knows he's top 3.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 12:47 am

I agree freak

I don't think BJ should be in the LW rankings, period.

We discussed this when Farmer was running them and Anderson Silva was like the #9 LHW. It was stupid. For one, he was not active enough in the division to be considered for rankings and if he was, #9 really?

If a guy is not in the division, they should not be eligible and top 10 votes for the figher should be disregarded.

BJ Penn is fighting at WW now. He should not figure into LW rankings if he's not fighting in the division.

It's going to be a long time if ever before Shields fights at MW again. I should not still be seeing him getting votes for top 10 MW

Henderson, while being the only one to be active enough in two divisions to be ranked...should be disregarded at MW as well.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 12:51 am

Agree with everything Kings. Given that Hendo is fighting Babalu at 205 and has said to be getting a likely title shot with a win, its pretty safe to stop ranking him at MW at this point. Same with BJ and the rest
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 12:53 am

If people vote as such, then that's where they should be.

U should try to make your argument b4 the rankings are made, so as to persuade the voters to see your rationale, ie Penn is fighting at WW vote accordingly, but u should not throw out votes after the polls are closed.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 1:01 am

I suppose, or we can say in the OP next time that certain guys arent eligible for certain divisions and votes won't be counted. So that way people know they are wasting a vote. Just to keep the rankings up to date. BJ Penn just does not figure into any part of the LW division right now because he's not in it. So he should not figure into the rankings.

If i were to vote for a name that was not on the ballot on these past mid term elections. I wrote my own name in. That's a disregarded vote and a wasted one because i was not eligible....or maybe they count it as one vote for me..idk.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 2:17 am

I'm kind of in the camp kings and bobbitt are here. I had the rankings all ready to be posted but I've been feeling pretty sick today, not sure if I got the flu or what, and I just needed to do some formatting and had a breakdown for each fighter and everything but I lost my work when I stepped away from the PC. Sucky.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 2:22 am

Leave them as is this time but next time we should make it clear that each fighter is only available for 1 division. If you want next time I'll put up 20 fighters available for each division and people choose 10 out of those 20. 20 should be more than enough.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 2:39 am

Man who remembers the top 20 fiasco? No one? Just as well.
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Lol no, what happened?
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 3:32 am

GDP you planning on doing this any time soon? Waiting for a particular event?


Edit : reading the thread might have helped me.
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PostSubject: Previous P4P Rankings Submittals and Discussion   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 3:33 am

This should be done after Edgar vs Maynard.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 4:36 am

Cavalcante and Mo top 10? and 7 and 8?

MTB still at 2?

BJ 9 at LW? he's 1 fight removed and still will be fighting there
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 4:38 am

MTB at 2 after the Manny KO seems strange, but he won his last fight while Manny did not, so it is what it is. Don't act surprised about the SF fighters. Yes LA we know you hate them and think they're garbage. No LA we don't care to debate that again.
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They don't belong, if they did I would say so. 4 possibly 5 SF HWs wouldn't be in my HW rankings if I based things solely off hate for their Organization, Diaz wouldn't be 5/6th, Jacare 5th. My dislike for the Org is obvious and warranted IMO, but after that I simply point out the obvious that the best fighters are in the UFC without question.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 4:58 am

Well it's a good thing you didn't vote as to not fuck up the averages in otherwise suitable rankings with your UFC-homerism and pseudo trolling.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 5:11 am

LOL, I don't vote because the rankings are usually eh and too many people post outliers which skew the results. And as I explained in the most simplistic way possible, there is no homersim, just simple evaulation of talent, helps me pick fights oddly enough.

Cavalcante and Mo don't belong, plain and simple.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 6:28 am

If you don't vote you have no right to complain.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 3:22 pm

We wanted to do a top 20 P4P since everyone's top 10 was practically identical at the time and somehow it turned into a huge shitstorm lol
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 4:44 pm

freakzilla316ftw wrote:
If you don't vote you have no right to complain.
Unless, of course, the reason you don't vote is because of your complaints.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 4:49 pm

You can comment on whatever the fuck you want on here.
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PostSubject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2...   MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 2... - Page 31 EmptySat Dec 04, 2010 5:01 pm

There weren't many outliers in this actually. Cavalcante and Mo were ranked top 10 by nearly everyone who voted
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