Leg kicks don't score well...(This is Rizzo-Couture all over again)

They never have.

I predicted a Machida dec that would be whined about on the internet by the end of the third round last night.

The fight wasn't that action packed, and essentially boiled down to how MMA judges score legkick-punch counters when two fighters engage. Leg kicks never score as high, even if flush, than a perry'd or partially blocked counter to the head.

This is why Lyoto was awarded the decision. I had it three rounds in Shogun's favor though.

This has shades of Rizzo-Couture 1 all over it. Machida is smart though, and won't fall for this game plan again.

Won't fall for this gameplan? He already did.

Even if what you say it true about leg shots (see Forrect vs Rampage already disproving it) then look at head shots? Shogun has more overall. He did more damage to Machida.

Even though it is a poor way to judge a fight look at Machida's red legs, ribs, and somewhat messed up face.

One fight doesn't disprove anything. There are tons of silly decisions where leg kicks are ignored. Are you serious Farmer? (also about the forrest fight; nobody got dominated from the bottom for four minutes of any round, and Machida never really reacted as hobbled as Page did, and page never counted any of the leg kicks with straights either, which is my point anyway dumbdick, that was like the first fight ever where leg kicks made the difference)

Fact is when a fighter throws a leg kick, and another throws a straight to the head, even if the straight misses more than it lands, and the leg kick is solid, the straight oft counts for more.

Machida won't fall for it again. Your reading skills are lacking today sir.

Are you super hung over or something Farmer?

Machida's mobility was noticeably impacted. He already has a flat plodding movement but his agility from around the third onward was limited. The pain inhis legs and side took away the strong pop he has shown in his countering in the past.

To me it's pretty silly that strong leg kicks don't score well. They can clearly end a fight if they're done by a good enough kicker (and I'd say Shogun's a good enough kicker), so I don't know why the damage done by a solid kick would be scored less than a grazing blow to the face. I feel like the judges in mma need to seriously get trained by a legitimate organization that can show how these fights should be judged.

Those werent normal leg kicks either. He did serious damage to machida and I would bet he is hardly walking today. His ribs were badly bruised and I dont recall ever seeing so much ice on someones legs during the fight like last night. In between rounds the corner was literally putting huge bags of ice on Machidas legs. Im with u Wolf that leg kicks are sometimes overlooked but the ones last night were a special breed in my book.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

They never have.

I predicted a Machida dec that would be whined about on the internet by the end of the third round last night.

The fight wasn't that action packed, and essentially boiled down to how MMA judges score legkick-punch counters when two fighters engage. Leg kicks never score as high, even if flush, than a perry'd or partially blocked counter to the head.

This is why Lyoto was awarded the decision. I had it three rounds in Shogun's favor though.

This has shades of Rizzo-Couture 1 all over it. Machida is smart though, and won't fall for this game plan again.

Congrats...half the MMA community did as well.

It doesn't even matter if leg kicks don't score as well, Machida didn't do shit in the fight.

He countered some of Shogun's kicks with straights but they weren't effective and many of them didn't land.

Giving the decision to Machida is inexcusable. There needs to be some kind of system to keep the judges honest. The integrity of the sport is on the line, especially in a UFC title fight.

It was a close fight only because neither guy was ever close to being finished.

Does anyone think failed take-down attempts hurt a fighter. Rua has at least three, I wonder if that works against a fighter.

According to Cecil Peoples if you try for a take down and don't go to the ground in the end you lose points. In three take down attempts, Shogun only came away with one close elbow and one nice elbow, Machida got three rounds from them.

Bigs03 wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

They never have.

I predicted a Machida dec that would be whined about on the internet by the end of the third round last night.

The fight wasn't that action packed, and essentially boiled down to how MMA judges score legkick-punch counters when two fighters engage. Leg kicks never score as high, even if flush, than a perry'd or partially blocked counter to the head.

This is why Lyoto was awarded the decision. I had it three rounds in Shogun's favor though.

This has shades of Rizzo-Couture 1 all over it. Machida is smart though, and won't fall for this game plan again.

Congrats...half the MMA community did as well.

It doesn't even matter if leg kicks don't score as well, Machida didn't do shit in the fight.

He countered some of Shogun's kicks with straights but they weren't effective and many of them didn't land.

Giving the decision to Machida is inexcusable. There needs to be some kind of system to keep the judges honest. The integrity of the sport is on the line, especially in a UFC title fight.

It was a close fight only because neither guy was ever close to being finished.

Im just explaining the reality of the situation.

They should make MMA judges take four kicks to the leg. Then they'd know. Boxing converts.