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Manny
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PostSubject: Who won?   Who won? EmptySun Nov 13, 2011 1:59 am

Well...
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptySun Nov 13, 2011 2:16 am

lol'd at this quote from the UK announcers

"Don't thank God for winning that fight, God wouldn't have made that decision"
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptySun Nov 13, 2011 7:53 am

I wont vote cause I havent seen the fight yet but from what I have read and seen on tv every won is saying at least it should have been a draw.
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptySun Nov 13, 2011 9:55 am

116-113 JMM.
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptySun Nov 13, 2011 11:54 am

how did this one compare to the first two?

i probably won't have time to watch it until tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptySun Nov 13, 2011 3:22 pm

I've yet to see it but chatter on the web is Marquez won and most fans now seem to think Floyd will easily defeat Pac.

I've said since day one that Floyd will put a clinic on Manny.
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptySun Nov 13, 2011 3:36 pm

Ali wrote:
I've yet to see it but chatter on the web is Marquez won and most fans now seem to think Floyd will easily defeat Pac.

I've said since day one that Floyd will put a clinic on Manny.



Same here my friend, same here.
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptySun Nov 13, 2011 10:52 pm

Ali wrote:
I've yet to see it but chatter on the web is Marquez won and most fans now seem to think Floyd will easily defeat Pac.

I've said since day one that Floyd will put a clinic on Manny.

If Manny fights like that he will not beat Floyd, he wasn't gettin off first and Marquez landed the cleaner shots, Marquez got robbed, I will admit I thought Manny would walk through him, I blew that one, I think after seeing that fight Floyd may drop all his BS conditions and sign the fight. Is it possible that Manny took his foot of the gas, so they could finally make the fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyMon Nov 14, 2011 12:10 am

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Ali wrote:
I've yet to see it but chatter on the web is Marquez won and most fans now seem to think Floyd will easily defeat Pac.

I've said since day one that Floyd will put a clinic on Manny.

If Manny fights like that he will not beat Floyd, he wasn't gettin off first and Marquez landed the cleaner shots, Marquez got robbed, I will admit I thought Manny would walk through him, I blew that one, I think after seeing that fight Floyd may drop all his BS conditions and sign the fight. Is it possible that Manny took his foot of the gas, so they could finally make the fight.



Hell no!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyMon Nov 14, 2011 10:19 am

I watched it last night and to be honest it wasn't a robbery, once again they provided us with another fantastic battle except this time it was a little more strategic and cautious.

It really depends on how you score rounds, with Manny he's always providing you with volume and aggression, but with Marquez he's using counter shots and focusing accuracy.

The outcry is mostly because everyone expected Marquez to be blown away.
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyMon Nov 14, 2011 11:04 am

Who won? Pacmar_scorecard
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyMon Nov 14, 2011 11:16 am

115-113 Pac
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyMon Nov 14, 2011 12:23 pm

agree with Ali...when somebody has the aura of invincibility like Manny..then they have an even fight with a huge underdog people almost always side with the underdog
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyMon Nov 14, 2011 1:45 pm

117-112 marquez on my card.

i thought marquez produced the more effective work throughout. even when manny landed his best shots marquez usually came back with counters.
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyMon Nov 14, 2011 2:07 pm

Any chance they ever go again?
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyMon Nov 14, 2011 2:21 pm

I think so. Their first fight was a barn burner, best of the three, very close, the second was also great and close, and the third was good, least exciting, most technical, but very close. I think Pac won all of them though but JMM is the one guy who always matches up great with Pac every time. I would love to see these guys fight. But chances are it won't happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyMon Nov 14, 2011 2:26 pm

GDPofDRC wrote:
I think so. Their first fight was a barn burner, best of the three, very close, the second was also great and close, and the third was good, least exciting, most technical, but very close. I think Pac won all of them though but JMM is the one guy who always matches up great with Pac every time. I would love to see these guys fight. But chances are it won't happen.
So if you were to put a number on it. Over or under 25% chance they go again?
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyMon Nov 14, 2011 2:33 pm

Under. I'd definitely watch, but under.
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyMon Nov 14, 2011 8:02 pm

Couple things I have read seem to suggest a 4th fight is definite.


As far as the decision, I was leaning Pac, though Lederman gushing over Pac was confusing me.

Def a very very close fight, and in no way a robbery. Could have gone either way, but Manny was the aggressor, he threw more, he landed more.

If Im JMM i can see being upset that none of the 3 went his way, but in any particular fight I didn't think any were bad decisions.
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyMon Nov 14, 2011 10:14 pm

I could not find a good stream so I was watching it on Sopcast and I am pretty sure it was in Japanese, so I had the sound off so I did not have any benefit of the announcers, it looked like to me that Marquez was getting off first and Manny was a little baffled the whole night, to hear the desperation in Roach's voice was a first as well, if Mayweather is not going to fight Pac, and after that fight he should be rushing to sign it, then do a 4th fight, who else is Manny going to face if it is not Mayweather.
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyMon Nov 14, 2011 11:04 pm

Its going to be Floyd I believe.
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyMon Nov 14, 2011 11:53 pm

I get that all the fights have been close and a lot of people think controversial but how many more times are we gonna run this when Marquez hasn't gotten his hand raised once?
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyTue Nov 15, 2011 7:14 am

i think mannys mate amir khan was telling on the commentary. he couldn't stop himself from sucking mannys dick for the first two rounds but even someone with such partisan loyalties thought he'd lost comfortably by the end. i was worried he'd ruin the fight for a while but he wasn't too bad when he forgot his PR duties and started calling the fight properly.

the first two were barnstormers and much closer than this one imo. manny didn't do enough to be considered the aggressor, the fight was fought on marquez terms as manny just kept walking onto counters all night long and marquez landed the crisper and more hurtful punches throughout the fight.

the 4th, 7th and 8th were the only rounds i had to agonise over, if i give all those rounds to manny, he wins 115-114 but i don't think that's right. felony robbery might be a bit of an overstatement but it's certainly a misdemeanor theft.
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyTue Nov 15, 2011 9:07 am

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/11/14/2562592/manny-pacquiao-vs-floyd-mayweather-jr-not-happening-bob-arum
Scott Christ of Bad Left Hook checks in on the news:

...with Marquez giving Pacquiao a horrible time again on Saturday night in what was a very good fight, the mood changed after, and it's been reported that Pacquiao and his team badly desire a fourth fight to try and finally get a convincing victory over Marquez, who feels that for a third time, he was robbed by the judges.

Marquez said after the fight on Saturday, when speaking with HBO's Max Kellerman, that he would consider retirement. If the money is right -- and it will be big, a career-best payday that tops the $5 million purse he made for Saturday's fight -- expect him to go in there with Manny one more time.
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PostSubject: Re: Who won?   Who won? EmptyTue Nov 15, 2011 10:27 am

OU wrote:
Any chance they ever go again?

All depends on whether Manny, Floyd, Arum, Haymon and Golden Boy can come to agreement for May 5th, if not then I'd say we'll definitely see a fourth fight round about that time.
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