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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/state/sfl-python-digesting-a-deer-captured-in-everglades-20111028,0,7671733.story

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An adult deer was found intact inside a huge Burmese python Thursday, after the snake was captured and killed in the Everglades.

Contractors for the South Florida Water Management District encountered the python on a tree island in western Miami-Dade County, according to the district. It was killed with a shotgun blast.

The 15.7-foot snake had a massive bulge from a recently consumed 76-pound female deer, the largest intact prey ever found in a Burmese python in Florida, said Skip Snow, a biologist and python specialist at Everglades National Park, who conducted the necropsy.

The python, an ambush predator, had staked out a known deer trail, he said. When the deer walked by, the snake presumably seized the animal in its sharp, backward-pointing teeth, crushed the deer under its weight and coiled around it, killing the deer before consuming it, he said.

Burmese pythons have established a breeding population in the Everglades over the past several years, arriving by way of the exotic pet business. State and federal wildlife officials say they say they were released by pet owners after having grown too large or escaped from enclosures destroyed by Hurricane Andrew.

The snakes primarily eat smaller mammals and birds, with larger pythons taking alligators, deer and hogs. Although pythons have been discovered with deer remains before, this is the first time such a snake was caught after just consuming a deer. That allowed biologists to see the size prey a python is capable of taking, Snow said. With the deer inside, the snake had a girth of 44 inches.

“This is clearly an extreme event,” he said. “It shows you they can eat huge things.”

Scott Hardin, exotic species coordinator for the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, said the snake was discovered by work crews walking carefully through a tree island to remove non-native lygodium plants.

“It’s pretty clearly one of the biggest snakes we’ve seen,” Hardin said. “We haven’t gotten anything longer than 16 feet in the wild in Florida.”

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crazy! I wonder when a kid is gonna get eaten by one of these snakes? It's bound to happen some time. Pythons and Boa's have been a problem down there for years. If they found one that was almost 16 feet long I would imagine there are more out there that are even bigger.
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Thats a scary thought Beast that there maybe some bigger.
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Thats a scary thought Beast that there maybe some bigger.


I think it is pretty safe to say. They have been finding all kinds of snakes in florida for over 20 years. They say alot were released during Hurricane Andrew but they were finding them long before then. I have read stories of Cobras, black mamba's, and all kinds of others being found down there. BLACK MAMBA!!!! affraid
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Thats a scary thought Beast that there maybe some bigger.


I think it is pretty safe to say. They have been finding all kinds of snakes in florida for over 20 years. They say alot were released during Hurricane Andrew but they were finding them long before then. I have read stories of Cobras, black mamba's, and all kinds of others being found down there. BLACK MAMBA!!!! affraid



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Unreal, sounds like it should come out of some kind of movie, that pic of the deer inside the snake is nasty.
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i hate snakes but pretty lame that they killed the fuckin thing just to find out if it was in fact a deer that it ate.
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i hate snakes but pretty lame that they killed the fuckin thing just to find out if it was in fact a deer that it ate.



What if it would have been a human body in there Kings?
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Was there a reason it was "captured and killed"? Am I missing something here
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i hate snakes but pretty lame that they killed the fuckin thing just to find out if it was in fact a deer that it ate.



What if it would have been a human body in there Kings?

It would be a corpse and a non-issue. No need to hold reptiles to the same standards as humans. If you happen to get eaten by a Python of all things, it's more than likely that you done fucked up. No need to execute the thing. I'm sure there are other, more scientific ways to know if a human is inside...but they chose to be cavemen about it.

Now they killed it, open it up and saw that it was simply nature.
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Well they had to find out to be sure. Any snake that is 15 feet long and has the capability to eat a 76 pound deer should be killed anyways.
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Who gives a fuck that they killed it? it's a snake. Kill them all!
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Well they had to find out to be sure. Any snake that is 15 feet long and has the capability to eat a 76 pound deer should be killed anyways.

Good point...Adolf!
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Well they had to find out to be sure. Any snake that is 15 feet long and has the capability to eat a 76 pound deer should be killed anyways.

Good point...Adolf!



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Yeah, no snake that has the nerve to grow so big has the right to live.

Tigers, Lions, and Bears are capable of tearing humans limb from limb...and that is more likely to happen that any snake killing and eating a human being...let's kill all of them as well. GENOCIDE on exotic creatures that have hunting ability and the need to eat a lot of weight.

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Yeah, no snake that has the nerve to grow so big has the right to live.

Tigers, Lions, and Bears are capable of tearing humans limb from limb...and that is more likely to happen that any snake killing and eating a human being...let's kill all of them as well. GENOCIDE on exotic creatures that have hunting ability and the need to eat a lot of weight.

No wonder you support Michael Vick.



i never said KILL THEM ALL lol. That was some1 else but i dont see what the problem is with killing an animal if he puts humans in danger or in this case possibly eating a human.
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Yeah, no snake that has the nerve to grow so big has the right to live.

Tigers, Lions, and Bears are capable of tearing humans limb from limb...and that is more likely to happen that any snake killing and eating a human being...let's kill all of them as well. GENOCIDE on exotic creatures that have hunting ability and the need to eat a lot of weight.

No wonder you support Michael Vick.



i never said KILL THEM ALL lol. That was some1 else but i dont see what the problem is with killing an animal if he puts humans in danger or in this case possibly eating a human.

That is not what you said. You pretty much said any snake that big that could eat a human should not live anyway...which is consistant with your typical attitude on this forum.

There was no "possibly eating a human". Maybe if there was a missing person in the region or something and this was a search party, but no missing people tied into this ..it was just killing to satisfy curiosity and nothing more.

Tim, is it that i am just this animal lover or is it that you are so indifferent to animal suffering that somebody who calls you out on it seems like it's overboard? Considering you tried to defend killing and torturing dogs as a legitimate sport...i say the latter.
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Yeah, no snake that has the nerve to grow so big has the right to live.

Tigers, Lions, and Bears are capable of tearing humans limb from limb...and that is more likely to happen that any snake killing and eating a human being...let's kill all of them as well. GENOCIDE on exotic creatures that have hunting ability and the need to eat a lot of weight.

No wonder you support Michael Vick.



i never said KILL THEM ALL lol. That was some1 else but i dont see what the problem is with killing an animal if he puts humans in danger or in this case possibly eating a human.

That is not what you said. You pretty much said any snake that big that could eat a human should not live anyway...which is consistant with your typical attitude on this forum.

There was no "possibly eating a human". Maybe if there was a missing person in the region or something and this was a search party, but no missing people tied into this ..it was just killing to satisfy curiosity and nothing more.

Tim, is it that i am just this animal lover or is it that you are so indifferent to animal suffering that somebody who calls you out on it seems like it's overboard? Considering you tried to defend killing and torturing dogs as a legitimate sport...i say the latter.




Any snake that big that is a threat to humans is exactly what i meant sorry it I didnt word it right. U say I defend killing dogs and i say thats false. I dont agree with what he was sent to prison for all i said is in spots down south it is considered sport. U take that however u want I guess. I do think at times u go overboard with it where at first i thought u were trying to be funny but now i understand that u put animal life on the same scale as human life and im in no position to say u are wrong for that but I dont believe that at all. If the snake had to be put down or not I dont know i wasnt there but to me with the picture of the snake I could definitely see how that could look like a child in there.
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Yeah, no snake that has the nerve to grow so big has the right to live.

Tigers, Lions, and Bears are capable of tearing humans limb from limb...and that is more likely to happen that any snake killing and eating a human being...let's kill all of them as well. GENOCIDE on exotic creatures that have hunting ability and the need to eat a lot of weight.

No wonder you support Michael Vick.



i never said KILL THEM ALL lol. That was some1 else but i dont see what the problem is with killing an animal if he puts humans in danger or in this case possibly eating a human.

That is not what you said. You pretty much said any snake that big that could eat a human should not live anyway...which is consistant with your typical attitude on this forum.

There was no "possibly eating a human". Maybe if there was a missing person in the region or something and this was a search party, but no missing people tied into this ..it was just killing to satisfy curiosity and nothing more.

Tim, is it that i am just this animal lover or is it that you are so indifferent to animal suffering that somebody who calls you out on it seems like it's overboard? Considering you tried to defend killing and torturing dogs as a legitimate sport...i say the latter.




Any snake that big that is a threat to humans is exactly what i meant sorry it I didnt word it right. U say I defend killing dogs and i say thats false. I dont agree with what he was sent to prison for all i said is in spots down south it is considered sport. U take that however u want I guess. I do think at times u go overboard with it where at first i thought u were trying to be funny but now i understand that u put animal life on the same scale as human life and im in no position to say u are wrong for that but I dont believe that at all. If the snake had to be put down or not I dont know i wasnt there but to me with the picture of the snake I could definitely see how that could look like a child in there.

What the fuck gives you that idea? You're nuts and i'm insulted by your wild assumption. I do believe as the smarter species that do not act on instinct we should hold ourselves responsible for how we interact with animals, which we do not. A kid smacks a cat and gets scratched..kill the cat. No..i don't at all hold animal life on the same scale as human life..it's just that you hold animal life on no scale at all.

As for the topic, an adult deer is much bigger/wider/heavier than any child and most non obese/yao ming/meathead adults, and there was zero speculation that there was a human being inside the snake. They knew it was an animal, they are just mudhumpers who got a trophy that happened to have a deer inside it.


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timthebim wrote:
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Yeah, no snake that has the nerve to grow so big has the right to live.

Tigers, Lions, and Bears are capable of tearing humans limb from limb...and that is more likely to happen that any snake killing and eating a human being...let's kill all of them as well. GENOCIDE on exotic creatures that have hunting ability and the need to eat a lot of weight.

No wonder you support Michael Vick.



i never said KILL THEM ALL lol. That was some1 else but i dont see what the problem is with killing an animal if he puts humans in danger or in this case possibly eating a human.

That is not what you said. You pretty much said any snake that big that could eat a human should not live anyway...which is consistant with your typical attitude on this forum.

There was no "possibly eating a human". Maybe if there was a missing person in the region or something and this was a search party, but no missing people tied into this ..it was just killing to satisfy curiosity and nothing more.

Tim, is it that i am just this animal lover or is it that you are so indifferent to animal suffering that somebody who calls you out on it seems like it's overboard? Considering you tried to defend killing and torturing dogs as a legitimate sport...i say the latter.




Any snake that big that is a threat to humans is exactly what i meant sorry it I didnt word it right. U say I defend killing dogs and i say thats false. I dont agree with what he was sent to prison for all i said is in spots down south it is considered sport. U take that however u want I guess. I do think at times u go overboard with it where at first i thought u were trying to be funny but now i understand that u put animal life on the same scale as human life and im in no position to say u are wrong for that but I dont believe that at all. If the snake had to be put down or not I dont know i wasnt there but to me with the picture of the snake I could definitely see how that could look like a child in there.

What the fuck gives you that idea? You're nuts and i'm insulted by your wild assumption. I do believe as the smarter species that do not act on instinct we should hold ourselves responsible for how we interact with animals, which we do not. A kid smacks a cat and gets scratched..kill the cat. No..i don't at all hold animal life on the same scale as human life..it's just that you hold animal life on no scale at all.

As for the topic, an adult deer is much bigger/wider/heavier than any child and adult, and there was zero speculation that there was a human being inside the snake. They knew it was an animal, they are just mudhumpers who got a trophy that happened to have a deer inside it.




Dude this just made me lol! . Im going to bed kings i will respond tomorrow. Peace.
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Great. Further insult me and walk away for the night without adressing my post. You're quite the guy Tim.
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Great. Further insult me and walk away for the night without adressing my post. You're quite the guy Tim.


Dont take things so personal. Remember I really dont know u.
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Personal?

You just said something off-base, like you often do(see dog fighting=legit sport)...i called you on it and instead of adressing my defense of your accussation, which is provided after the line you bold..you LOL and skip away like a little kid who didnt have an answer but was simply fed up with getting smashed week after week to the point of passive agressiveness and attempting to leave on an insult and last word without even adressing my post. Nothing personal, just discussion that you have no probablem partaking in when you are playing the lovable idiot, but you shy away from everytime you are challenged.

Of course it's not personal...it's how i know you on these forums. Of course the dog killing enthusiasts stuff is in jest, but you are still pretty off in your defense of some shit...and completely off on your accussation that i hold animal life on the same scale of human life.
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Personal?

You just said something off-base, like you often do(see dog fighting=legit sport)...i called you on it and instead of adressing my defense of your accussation, which is provided after the line you bold..you LOL and skip away like a little kid who didnt have an answer but was simply fed up with getting smashed week after week to the point of passive agressiveness and attempting to leave on an insult and last word without even adressing my post. Nothing personal, just discussion that you have no probablem partaking in when you are playing the lovable idiot, but you shy away from everytime you are challenged.

Of course it's not personal...it's how i know you on these forums. Of course the dog killing enthusiasts stuff is in jest, but you are still pretty off in your defense of some shit...and completely off on your accussation that i hold animal life on the same scale of human life.


Said I was sorry but some of the shit u post warrants that reaction from me.
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That snake needed to die and Tim is so right here. King's, do you think that Black Mamba's and King Cobra's should be allowed to live in Florida just because some dumbass let them go or whatever, like a 16 foot snake who can kill 76lbs children? That's all I want to know. It is a yes or no question to answer. Any other words you throw in will be considered you just hating humans and having sexual thoughts about numerous animal species.


I just want a yay or nay if those snakes should live in an area that is not there natural habitat Kings.
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