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oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:38 pm | |
| i think Kenny beats Diego in a rematch at LW, maybe Frankie, maybe Gray, maybe a couple others | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:40 pm | |
| - NoRegret wrote:
- Well then LA, your P4P list must be correct since only you apparently can have the correct one.
Anyone that tries to stray away from the norm is obviously wrong. Thank you sir for clarifying that for me.
My p4p lists are different for the fact that I rank ppl based on how tough they would be to beat PRESENTLY. Discussion board bro, always remember that, I said this is what I wanted to do You can't ignore what a guy has done in two divisions | |
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NoRegret Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Anyone that comes to FIGHT! Posts : 4548 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 34 Location : The Dirty 330- Ohio
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:41 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- Aoki, Florian, Alverez, Edgar, Griffin, Melendez, Hansen for starters
Well, we are all entitled to our opinions so I will give mine. Based offa your list, I would give you a MAYBE in a close fight with Aoki...a MAYBE with Edgar and a MAYBE with Griffin. None of those guys are locks against Sanchez. I dont see Florian beating Sanchez though, thats also talkin to Oggy's post. | |
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NoRegret Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Anyone that comes to FIGHT! Posts : 4548 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 34 Location : The Dirty 330- Ohio
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:43 pm | |
| - tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- NoRegret wrote:
- Well then LA, your P4P list must be correct since only you apparently can have the correct one.
Anyone that tries to stray away from the norm is obviously wrong. Thank you sir for clarifying that for me.
My p4p lists are different for the fact that I rank ppl based on how tough they would be to beat PRESENTLY. Discussion board bro, always remember that, I said this is what I wanted to do
You can't ignore what a guy has done in two divisions Im not disputing that this is a discussion board bro, but you cant shoot down my ideas and expect me not to debate right back. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:44 pm | |
| Diego would beat Melendez, he'd still be a top 10 WW if he was fighting there. Kenny would be a close fight, might see it after Gomi who knows.
I think a couple UFC LWs could potentially beat Aoki
Gray's standup isn't as good as Diego's as a whole, and the wrestling would be a wash, I think Diego would beat him in a decision, I think Frankie would beat Gray in a rematch, and I think Kenny could beat him personally. | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 105 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:47 pm | |
| - NoRegret wrote:
- GDPofDRC wrote:
- Aoki, Florian, Alverez, Edgar, Griffin, Melendez, Hansen for starters
Well, we are all entitled to our opinions so I will give mine.
Based offa your list, I would give you a MAYBE in a close fight with Aoki...a MAYBE with Edgar and a MAYBE with Griffin.
None of those guys are locks against Sanchez. I dont see Florian beating Sanchez though, thats also talkin to Oggy's post. Not locks for anyone in this sport, But I see Sanchez going forward into something bad against most of these guys. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:48 pm | |
| - NoRegret wrote:
- tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- NoRegret wrote:
- Well then LA, your P4P list must be correct since only you apparently can have the correct one.
Anyone that tries to stray away from the norm is obviously wrong. Thank you sir for clarifying that for me.
My p4p lists are different for the fact that I rank ppl based on how tough they would be to beat PRESENTLY. Discussion board bro, always remember that, I said this is what I wanted to do
You can't ignore what a guy has done in two divisions Im not disputing that this is a discussion board bro, but you cant shoot down my ideas and expect me not to debate right back. That's fine, but it's not simply this guy could beat this guy so he's ahead of him. | |
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NoRegret Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Anyone that comes to FIGHT! Posts : 4548 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 34 Location : The Dirty 330- Ohio
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:52 pm | |
| - tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- NoRegret wrote:
- tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- NoRegret wrote:
- Well then LA, your P4P list must be correct since only you apparently can have the correct one.
Anyone that tries to stray away from the norm is obviously wrong. Thank you sir for clarifying that for me.
My p4p lists are different for the fact that I rank ppl based on how tough they would be to beat PRESENTLY. Discussion board bro, always remember that, I said this is what I wanted to do
You can't ignore what a guy has done in two divisions Im not disputing that this is a discussion board bro, but you cant shoot down my ideas and expect me not to debate right back. That's fine, but it's not simply this guy could beat this guy so he's ahead of him. Well, even with my way of doing P4p lists, its still not too far offa what most everyone else put up. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:56 pm | |
| It's fine, it's ur list
I still think people go a little overboard with Mousasi
I question Vitor in the top 20 too, he's still on the comeback with his best win against Rich | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:58 pm | |
| I'd like to see some more lists, so lets chill a bit | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:59 pm | |
| granted Mousasi might be a little high on my list, he's still a little unproven but i like his chances to be a p4p guy for years to come. Right now he probably deserves to be around 12-15 imo. | |
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NoRegret Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Anyone that comes to FIGHT! Posts : 4548 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 34 Location : The Dirty 330- Ohio
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:00 pm | |
| yes, but I had Rich in my top 20 when Vitor beat him...and Vitor didnt just beat him he pretty much destroyed him.
Yeah, I guess I'm a little high on Mousasi because he is one of my favorite fighters but I still think he's one of the best out there right now and thats why he's in my top 10 | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:02 pm | |
| Vitor because he had success on and off his whole career at HW and LHW, which is why he is an honorable mention.
Who cares where people at websites rank Diego. He isn't in any top ten lists because LW is such a swolen division. He won TUF at 185, fought at a high level at 70, and then 55.
Bigs not trying to pick on you but BJ and Machida never met in the cage before... | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 105 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:04 pm | |
| They fought in a ring overseas. Machida got deserving decision. They should cage fight though. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:06 pm | |
| - oggy420 wrote:
- granted Mousasi might be a little high on my list, he's still a little unproven but i like his chances to be a p4p guy for years to come. Right now he probably deserves to be around 12-15 imo.
Logical thinking, if he beats Hendo, he moves to 6 for me | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:07 pm | |
| BJ's a fucking LW, Machida is a LHW | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 105 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:07 pm | |
| Yeah but their gamers. Plus BJ will fight anyone. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:10 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Vitor because he had success on and off his whole career at HW and LHW, which is why he is an honorable mention.
Who cares where people at websites rank Diego. He isn't in any top ten lists because LW is such a swolen division. He won TUF at 185, fought at a high level at 70, and then 55.
Bigs not trying to pick on you but BJ and Machida never met in the cage before... Yeah I'm with you on Diego, can't believe the rankings that drop him from the top 10 cause he gets beat down by the best LW ever, hope he gets a top guy next. Pretty sure he was still ranked in the top 10 WWs when he dropped too. Regret, I can go with that on Vitor, plus with what Wolfy said, I'd have him 20-25 | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:15 pm | |
| 1. Fedor 2. Machida 3. Anderson 4. GSP 5. Penn 6. Aldo 7. Mousasi 8. Brock 9. Bowles 10. Marquardt or Shields
Brock still belongs imo | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:12 pm | |
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Bigs03 Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Fedor and GSP Posts : 3124 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 44 Location : Houston, TX
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:21 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Vitor because he had success on and off his whole career at HW and LHW, which is why he is an honorable mention.
Who cares where people at websites rank Diego. He isn't in any top ten lists because LW is such a swolen division. He won TUF at 185, fought at a high level at 70, and then 55.
Bigs not trying to pick on you but BJ and Machida never met in the cage before... You're right, my bad, that's just a phrase I use for the most part. They met in K-1. Either way, they fought, BJ lost a UD. | |
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Bigs03 Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Fedor and GSP Posts : 3124 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 44 Location : Houston, TX
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:27 pm | |
| - tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- BJ's a fucking LW, Machida is a LHW
True but they still fought. How else can p4p rankings be tested other than for the guys to get in a cage (or ring) and fight? They fought an open weight, BJ weighed 191lbs and Machida weighed 220lbs. Sucks for BJ but he stepped in and lost. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:45 pm | |
| 1.Spider 2.GSP 3.Fedor 4.Machida 5.BJ 6.Shogun 7.Mousasi 8.Rashad 9.Fitch 10.Hendo | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:16 pm | |
| If anything that fight speaks to how good BJ is, not Machida. | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 105 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1... Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:20 pm | |
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