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GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:10 pm | |
| - timthebim wrote:
- Primetyme199 wrote:
- So who's corner will Jackson be in or will he not be in either?
If hes not in GSPs he should be fired!!!! http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/09/07/greg-jackson-wont-train-with-either-gsp-or-condit-in-preparatio/ September 7 2011 Last updated at 05:45 PM ET Greg Jackson Won't Train Either GSP or Condit in Preparation for UFC 137 By Ariel Helwani Video Reporter and Writer 1323 One of the interesting subplots of the Georges St-Pierre vs. Carlos Condit UFC 137 main event is the fact that both fighters currently train under Greg Jackson. MMAFighting.com spoke to Jackson shortly after the UFC announced the welterweight title fight on Wednesday to find out where his allegiances will lie come Oct. 29. A transcript of our conversation can be found below. Ariel Helwani: Greg, two of your star fighters are going to fight each other in October. What will do you?Greg Jackson: Teammate protocols are pretty clear in this situation so everybody knows what happening. I step out, the other coaches -- John [Danaher], Phil [Nurse] and Firas [Zahabi] -- will take care of GSP and probably [Mike] Winkeljohn and some of the other guys here will take care of Carlos. But I step out of it, so I won't be cornering either guy. They'll fight each other. Those are the new teammate protocols. We knew this would be coming -- it will probably be coming again --but this time we are very well prepared. Carlos trains in Albuquerque full-time, while GSP's home base is in Montreal, so how will you not offer advice when you see him in the gym?Carlos is still training with a team. I am just not going to do game plans and private lessons and everything that I normally do for the guys because usually it's a pretty intense process -- I give them private lessons all the time -- heavy on the game planning, heavy on the personal growth plan, and for this, I'll just let the other coaches do that for both Georges and Carlos. So I'll just step out. They're all amazing coaches. Geez, I'm the worst coach on the team. They'll all do their thing. Are you disappointed that they have to fight each other?Nah, I mean, I don't like it. They are two of my friends. Me and Georges, I mean, I love that man to death. And Carlos has been, since he came back to the gym, has been on a destruction streak. So they both have to eat, they have to make money. I really love training, working with my guys. There's two of my favorites that I don't get to work with this time, so that's kind of a bummer. But I don't care about the money; I don't care about the fame; I don't care about any of that stuff. They've got to make a living, but I can't look across the cage at one of my guys. I just can't do it. Will GSP come to New Mexico for this camp?No, I don't think so. That wouldn't make much sense if Carlos was here. The team is such a well-oiled machine after so many years of being together it's not going to be a big deal. Have they ever trained together?Not much. I don't know if they have at all, so not much. Carlos only came back a little bit ago and Georges comes in and out, and I go up there [to Montreal]. So I don't think they have trained together at all. I'm guessing you won't offer a prediction on the fight?Absolutely not (laughs). Since they're both members of our team, I predict somebody from our team is going to win. Where will you watch the fight?I'll be there because Donald Cerrone is fighting that night, Eliot Marshall ... I got, like, four other guys. I'll be there, but hopefully I'll duck out before the main event. It's just not something I want to watch. That's their business. Sometimes brothers got to fight and it will be what it is and everything will be good again. They're both really stellar, standup guys. You know, Georges, I cannot say enough good things about him. Not only Georges St-Pierre the fighter but Georges St-Pierre as a person. That man is phenomenal and the same for Carlos Condit. Such a good guy with a good heart. They're going to have a great dust up, I hope they get Fight of the Night and then they can feed their families. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:23 pm | |
| Good interview. Has to be tough for Greg Jackson seeing two of his biggest fighters fighting each other. | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:36 pm | |
| Well, i'm a Condit fan so atleast i won't take pleasure in watching him get his ass handed to him like i was going to when Penn kicked his ass. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:38 pm | |
| I went from wanting Penn to kill him to wanting Condit to kill GSP!!!! There are some crazy up and downs in MMA. | |
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:42 pm | |
| - timthebim wrote:
- I went from wanting Penn to kill him to wanting Condit to kill GSP!!!! There are some crazy up and downs in MMA.
Was going to make a thread or comment on the same thing. MMA has story and drama to match any big time sport out there. More so in fact for someone like me. When it is hot it is white hot. | |
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:53 pm | |
| Damn, this fight is much tougher for GSP. Going to be a good fight. I'd much rather he fight Diaz. |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:10 pm | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- Damn, this fight is much tougher for GSP. Going to be a good fight. I'd much rather he fight Diaz.
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:39 pm | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:53 pm | |
| I don't know if this is a tougher fight, maybe there is less of a chance of a straight GSP wrestle-a-thon, but it's still a very good fight. | |
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Frank FZY Newbie
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:58 pm | |
| I'm fucking depressed that the Diaz-GSP fight isn't happening anymore. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:58 pm | |
| I think Condit will take a shit load of chances and go for the win where alot of GSPs recent opponents havent. | |
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Frank FZY Newbie
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:59 pm | |
| - captain organic wrote:
- I don't know if this is a tougher fight, maybe there is less of a chance of a straight GSP wrestle-a-thon, but it's still a very good fight.
This fight is so much easier for GSP it's not even funny. Watch Condit's other fights and tell me he can defend a good takedown. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:00 pm | |
| - Frank FZY wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- I don't know if this is a tougher fight, maybe there is less of a chance of a straight GSP wrestle-a-thon, but it's still a very good fight.
This fight is so much easier for GSP it's not even funny. Watch Condit's other fights and tell me he can defend a good takedown. Just as good if not better than Diaz. | |
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Frank FZY Newbie
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:03 pm | |
| - timthebim wrote:
- Frank FZY wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- I don't know if this is a tougher fight, maybe there is less of a chance of a straight GSP wrestle-a-thon, but it's still a very good fight.
This fight is so much easier for GSP it's not even funny. Watch Condit's other fights and tell me he can defend a good takedown.
Just as good if not better than Diaz. Not only do i not agree, but i think Diaz is far superior on the ground regardless. Shit, i'd rather watch Diaz vs Condit for #1 contendership and make GSP wait out. haha | |
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:03 pm | |
| I'm more pissed that we don't get to see Condit beat Penn. |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:05 pm | |
| - Frank FZY wrote:
- timthebim wrote:
- Frank FZY wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- I don't know if this is a tougher fight, maybe there is less of a chance of a straight GSP wrestle-a-thon, but it's still a very good fight.
This fight is so much easier for GSP it's not even funny. Watch Condit's other fights and tell me he can defend a good takedown.
Just as good if not better than Diaz. Not only do i not agree, but i think Diaz is far superior on the ground regardless.
Shit, i'd rather watch Diaz vs Condit for #1 contendership and make GSP wait out. haha Frank u are new so u dont know how much i hate GSP so to me I hope Condit or diaz kill GSP. | |
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:06 pm | |
| The ultimate would be to string along a pissed off Penn only to eventually have Nick fight Penn and get his ass beat at UFC 137 and to then have to watch Condit go fight for the title later that night and pull off the upset. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:07 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:07 pm | |
| I love Condit...but my scorecard already reads 50-45
I'm bored of GSP's reign and i've followed Condit's career for awhile, but i just don't like the matchup for him. If people thought GSP would wrestle Diaz to death, why do they think Condit who does not defend the takedown well and is not the BJJ player Diaz is will serve as a tougher matchup?
I mean Condit, although i feel he should have got the decision lost to Kampmann solely on getting taken down and controlled too much during the fight. He was behind against Rory for the same reason.
The only thing i think Condit brings to this fight that isnt less than what Nick Diaz would have brought in is he's a little more dynamic of a striker. Diaz is better with his hands, but Condit has the added bonus of using his feet effectively.
Other than that, the concerns that people had for Diaz remain for Condit, and then some IMO.
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:09 pm | |
| I just love the chances Condit will take and hopefully he lands something big which he is certainly capable of. | |
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:10 pm | |
| Condit has 1 punch KO power which Diaz doesn't. |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:11 pm | |
| I'd pick Diaz vs Penn. Which would be an epic fight.
And I agree with the new guy, I'd rather watch Condit vs Diaz as well. The thought of 5 rnds of the GSP grind em up is not overly appealing(though I disgree with him in that I think GSP grinds out either guy).
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:12 pm | |
| Condit deserves to get a crack against GSP besides he is new blood. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:13 pm | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- Condit has 1 punch KO power which Diaz doesn't.
But Diaz KO's dudes on the regular. he always KO's guys despite that lack of one punch power. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Carlos Condit vs GSP Official Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:16 pm | |
| I think both Diaz and Condit each give GSP problems in a different way so either fight will be good to me. | |
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