Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:44 am
i don't think he gets das boot from the UFC tho... his a cash cow and theres money to be made off of him
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:03 pm
Well I went from looking forward to this card to not giving a crap about it
Ill be watching Ward vs Froch
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:07 pm
Ludo wrote:
bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
True. The highest ranked guy Diaz has ever beat is Paul Daley. GSP, Fitch, Shields, Penn, Koscheck and Woodley would all beat him. Some others also.
Those guys would rape Diaz. Condit would also imo. Diego has and still would beat him. Hughes would probably take him even now.
Guys like Daley, Hardy, Rumble, etc are a crap shoot with Diaz. The guys mentioned above and most great wrestlers will beat Nick. GSP would've been embarrasing. Nick fans are nuts to think he is better than GSP. Only if he pulled a Matt Serra....Shit Serra is still in the UFC, he probably beats Nick too!
I'll handle this in one fell swoop here. Diaz would absolutely fucking wreck Woodley. He would probably get taken down at first but his bottom game is alot better than Daley's(who swept and almost submitted Woodley from the bottom by the way) and standing it would be just as close, which is not at all. When Woodley lost steam in the third round Diaz would pour it on and force a stoppage one way or another.
Daley would probably lose 9 out of every 10 times by Diaz and the only time Daley wins that fight is when Diaz stands with him and gets caught again.
Hardy just got his shit pushed in by Chris Lytle, who is about on the same level of technical boxing as Diaz(when Lytle is being technical), Diaz would ruin Hardy's liver if he didn't choke his rookie ass out.
Rumble gets submitted with a quickness because his big ass is clumsy and leaves himself open. Hughes gets blasted and blasted in career ending fashion by Diaz.
I do agree GSP had the upper hand in this fight, though. With Condit the lines are a little blurred simply because he is much more explosive. But barring a KO that looks eerily similar to the Stungun fight he's more or less dead in the water here too.
Nick can Box, but Lytle is better imo. You're right about Rumble and Hardy. I wasn't serious with the whole post. A lil sarcasm was there if ya didn't notice. I stand by my comment that Diaz would get beat by most of the top guys in the UFC and I think Woodley would beat him also. Matt Hughes isn't what he once was, but Diaz would not wreck him imo. Silly comment dude. My whole point is that I am glad he isn't getting a title shot because its a waste of our time. He should beat a guy like BJ or Kos before he gets a crack at GSP. Condit deserves the shot before Nick anyways.
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:07 pm
killerofchicken wrote:
i don't think he gets das boot from the UFC tho... his a cash cow and theres money to be made off of him
true, but this fight was the biggest one they could make...
Why Im surprised they bailed on it so quickly
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:08 pm
No one else sees a little Ricky Williams qualities in Diaz? Ricky had some clear social anxiety problems. Even wore his helmet during interviews. He "marched to a beat of a different drum". Left the NFL in his prime to do some soul searching/missions/whatever.
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Subject: The UFC 137 Press Conference with the decision Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:19 pm
Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:38 pm
ill be the first one before u get a shit storm of guys telling u this
Spoiler:
NOT THREAD WORTHY
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:55 pm
Diaz is the biggest loser in the fucking sport! He needs to be a garbage hauler...
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:21 pm
Dana says Diaz cracked under pressure. Would've made more money from this fight than all his others combined. Condit cried when he was offered the shot.
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:24 pm
freakzilla wrote:
Dana says Diaz cracked under pressure. Would've made more money from this fight than all his others combined. Condit cried when he was offered the shot.
Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:27 pm
Quote :
"This kid's not gonna show up in Vegas, not gonna show up in Toronto, what else isn't he going to show up for? Is he not gonna show up for the fight? I'm not gonna risk that. I don't think Nick Diaz is gonna try and get a hold of me. If Nick Diaz wanted to get a hold of me, he should have got a hold of me in the last couple of days. I don't see Nick Diaz calling me up and saying 'Hey listen, I'm sorry, gimme the fight back.' That's just not Nick Diaz. I'm done. I would never accept his word again."
dana has nothing to explain here IMO... he did the right thing
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:48 pm
OU wrote:
No one else sees a little Ricky Williams qualities in Diaz? Ricky had some clear social anxiety problems. Even wore his helmet during interviews. He "marched to a beat of a different drum". Left the NFL in his prime to do some soul searching/missions/whatever.
He didn't leave, he got suspended for an entire season for getting busted multiple times with marijuana. After he realized nobody would sign him immediately following the suspension he went to the CFL. This isn't even really the same thing. The only connections are the anxiety and pot. Williams did his job and what came with it, even if he wore his helmet during interveiws at least he took them. Though there is symmetry in the fact that both guys wasted a ton of talent over outside bullshit. If thats what you were getting at then disregard the post prior to this.
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:56 pm
OU, I see what you are saying, but come on? Zuffa has already put together prime press releases, shipped out posters, programs, paid for commercial spots, put together media packages and primers. Now they have to rush everything, plus pay for it again? He cost the organization money it will probably never recoup and the only clear winner in this whole mess is Carlos Condit. Who is going on my favorite fighter list for jumping through hoops Pussy Nick couldn't handle...
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:04 pm
Diaz needs to man up, plain and simple. He agreed to do something and he didn't do it, therefore, his word means nothing. He can go on and on calling it a "beauty pageant" and proclaiming that he wants to "get paid," but what he doesn't realize is he wouldnt "get paid" if not for the media and fans. Therefore, these press conference are an intergral part in his "getting paid." He expects to get paid without having to fullfill his obligations, which is the actions of a boy, not a man. Regardless of any social anxiety or other excuses they want to throw out there, Diaz just needs to grow up and stop acting like he is entitled to everything.
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:05 pm
I'm not saying they are identical, just have some similarities. Ricky might have went through with the interviews, but he damn sure did not want to be there. He did not like that part of playing in the NFL. The guy just had a different line of thinking. Granted I think Ricky is a much smarter individual then Nick. But both have different ways of looking at things and have obvious cases of extreme social anxiety.
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:21 pm
Ali wrote:
GDPofDRC wrote:
LMAO Ariel will regret that.
seems like hewani has had it out for nick for some time now always putting words in his mouth etc. If I was nick I would slap the shit out of him. Yeah nick fucked up but hewani needs to keep his mouth shut and worry about his next interview. I always liked hewani but seeing how he likes to start shit and now speaking out if his ass he is a fucking tool bag and needs shut the fuck up.
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:34 pm
Actually Soko, he is pushing back at Nick Diaz for saying something similiar to Helwani after a fight, in which Dumbass Diaz felt slighted.
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:37 pm
I love that tweet. Helwani does his job alright. Nick is just mentally frail, so much so he doesn't have a handle on anything. And fuck bullies, it's no wonder he ducked Miller.
Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:11 pm
oh snap!
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:13 pm
Ducked Miller?
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:39 pm
freakzilla wrote:
Dana says Diaz cracked under pressure. Would've made more money from this fight than all his others combined. Condit cried when he was offered the shot.
Dana can say all he wants, Nick would have shown up on fight night and knocked your boy out.
Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:44 pm
Ali wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Dana says Diaz cracked under pressure. Would've made more money from this fight than all his others combined. Condit cried when he was offered the shot.
Dana can say all he wants, Nick would have shown up on fight night and knocked your boy out.
doesn't matter how he would have done against GSP, if you don't play the game, you don't get payed
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Subject: Re: As usual Nick Diaz is a screw up! Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:01 pm