Where does Cain Velasquez vs JDS rank in history for HW fights?

Rank these 5 historical HW fights from most important/influential to least.

Cain Velasquez vs JDS- Arguably the first time ever where the top 2 HW's in the world fight for the UFC HW title.
Fedor Emelianenko vs Big Nog- Big Nog was the champ but this fight crowned Fedor as the king.
Fedor Emelianenko vs Mirko Cro Cop- Cro Cop was on a tear and people thought he might unseat the king.
Brock Lesnar vs Randy Couture- Brang great exposure to the UFC HW title after it had been a joke for a long time.
Mark Coleman vs Dan Severn- Crowned the first ever UFC HW champion

Fedor-CC is numero uno

Fedor vs Nog/CroCop still bigger in the actual sport perspective.

Non-sporting, Brock vs Randy is biggest, which of course doesn't really even belong being compared with any of the others.

But Cain vs JDS is huge on both levels and cumulatively the biggest.

This is the biggest fight in HW or MMA history.

4th

Damn, living in Australia I don't get to experience the hype or really get to understand the magnitude of it.

I think these guys being in the late spring of their respective careers and the champion coming off of a year long injury layoff diminishes this from the biggest HW/any weight fight ever at the moment.

If you look away from the fight and fighters and at the externals alone, it is biggest.

GDPofDRC wrote:

I think these guys being in the late spring of their respective careers and the champion coming off of a year long injury layoff diminishes this from the biggest HW/any weight fight ever at the moment.

If you look away from the fight and fighters and at the externals alone, it is biggest.

Technically I'm pretty sure this is the first time ever the #1 HW in the world is facing off against the #2 HW in the world for the UFC title. Pretty sure I remember reading that in a list of Fedor accomplishments, he was in the only other HW fight that featured #1 vs #2.

http://www.mmamania.com/2011/7/28/2247829/ungodly-numbers-a-look-at-fedor-emelianenko
13. Fedor is the only heavyweight to beat a true number one and then defend that position against the true number two. Cain Velasquez and Junior dos Santos will become the second pair of heavyweights to ever accomplish such feat.

freakzilla wrote:

Rank these 5 historical HW fights from most important/influential to least.

Cain Velasquez vs JDS- Arguably the first time ever where the top 2 HW's in the world fight for the UFC HW title.
Fedor Emelianenko vs Big Nog- Big Nog was the champ but this fight crowned Fedor as the king.
Fedor Emelianenko vs Mirko Cro Cop- Cro Cop was on a tear and people thought he might unseat the king.
Brock Lesnar vs Randy Couture- Brang great exposure to the UFC HW title after it had been a joke for a long time.
Mark Coleman vs Dan Severn- Crowned the first ever UFC HW champion

Fedor v. Big Nog II was the biggest HW fight ever, since both were the no-doubter #1 and #2 HWs in the world. As far as importance that was probably it. Coleman/ Severn weren't far off either. Both were kind of undisputed as well.

As for influence, probably Brock/Couture in all honesty, even though neither #1 or probably even #2 at the time. Fedor/Nog I and Fedor/Crocop were both up there too, but Crocop was not the #2 guy when he fought Fedor, and Fedor/Nog I was not necessarily #1 vs. #2.

JDS and Cain are up there, but it's not 100% in my mind that they are 1 and 2. Overeem may be up there, and even though it looks like JDS would throttle Brock, I'm still not 100% sure. But it is a GREAT HW scrap.

Just read about the FOX fight with Cain and JDS. I change my mind, this is the most influential HW fight ever.

freakzilla wrote:

Damn, living in Australia I don't get to experience the hype or really get to understand the magnitude of it.

Just think of the fight being shown on a Australian terrestrial channel on a Saturday evening.

For me it's like having the fight on the BBC.

Considering it's the most recent...it's THE BIGGEST HW FIGHT OF ALLLLLLL TIME!

If this was Dana's idea it's the worst HW fight to ever happen on LIVE TV.

If this was Lorenzo's idea this is the best HW fight to ever happen on LIVE TV.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Considering it's the most recent...it's THE BIGGEST HW FIGHT OF ALLLLLLL TIME!

Took the words out of my mouth.

I think if we have to stick a Lesnar fight in there, his second fight with Frank Mir had a much bigger impact for not only Lesnar but the UFC.

Couture was pretty much a geezer smaller fighter who he struggled to take down most of the fight. It got him the belt but i knew i was not overly stunned.

Lesnar-Mir II was a bigger fight. It had all the trash talk..Mir the cocky asshole who has a win over him and Lesnar as the rager who can't get past the fact that he lost. The wrestling build up such as Lesnar TKO's pushover door. It had the rematch value that Mir had already defeated Lesnar. It established Lesnar as a beast(all up until his next fight that is), and out buyrated Lesnar-Couture by a cool 700 buys(though the event number and GSP helped that)..no doubt the draw was Lesnar-Mir. It was a much bigger fight than Lesnar-Couture at the time and hindsight.

As further evidence that this was the bigger fight...Buffer 360 does not show up for just any old HW fight

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Considering it's the most recent...it's THE BIGGEST HW FIGHT OF ALLLLLLL TIME!

1 vs 2, Lesnar killer vs a real threat, Fox, the two best HW's in the last three years in the UFC finally meeting...Fedor is dead.

1, being on Fox...., first time ever...., for the Title...., best two HWs in the World....this fight is huge.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Considering it's the most recent...it's THE BIGGEST HW FIGHT OF ALLLLLLL TIME!

1 vs 2, Lesnar killer vs a real threat, Fox, the two best HW's in the last three years in the UFC finally meeting...Fedor is dead.

Who said anything about Fedor? Just making note/joke that UFC typically promotes all their title HW fights as the biggest HW fight of all time, or is very liberal with the use of All time...was not meant as any sort of slight of this fight or even denying it that stature..but Wolf, you have been struggling with sarcasm or joking as of late..I still don't understand how you thought "You could hear a pin drop" was literal in the UFC Rio thread unless you were intentionally trying to be a pantshitter about it.

but yes, to be serious...it's a massive fuckin fight with the two top HW known right now, but i pretty much said that in the original thread...having a little fun in this one.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Considering it's the most recent...it's THE BIGGEST HW FIGHT OF ALLLLLLL TIME!

1 vs 2, Lesnar killer vs a real threat, Fox, the two best HW's in the last three years in the UFC finally meeting...Fedor is dead.

Who said anything about Fedor? Just making note/joke that UFC typically promotes all their title HW fights as the biggest HW fight of all time, or is very liberal with the use of All time...was not meant as any sort of slight of this fight or even denying it that stature..but Wolf, you have been struggling with sarcasm as of late..I still don't understand how you thought "You could hear a pin drop" was literal in the UFC Rio thread unless you were intentionally trying to be a pantshitter about it.

but yes, to be serious...it's a massive fuckin fight with the two top HW known right now, but i pretty much said that in the original thread...having a little fun in this one.

Lol, reminds me of Tony Schivane every week on WCW Nitro. This is the biggest Nitro main event ever!

freakzilla wrote:

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Considering it's the most recent...it's THE BIGGEST HW FIGHT OF ALLLLLLL TIME!

1 vs 2, Lesnar killer vs a real threat, Fox, the two best HW's in the last three years in the UFC finally meeting...Fedor is dead.

Who said anything about Fedor? Just making note/joke that UFC typically promotes all their title HW fights as the biggest HW fight of all time, or is very liberal with the use of All time...was not meant as any sort of slight of this fight or even denying it that stature..but Wolf, you have been struggling with sarcasm as of late..I still don't understand how you thought "You could hear a pin drop" was literal in the UFC Rio thread unless you were intentionally trying to be a pantshitter about it.

but yes, to be serious...it's a massive fuckin fight with the two top HW known right now, but i pretty much said that in the original thread...having a little fun in this one.

Lol, reminds me of Tony Schivane every week on WCW Nitro. This is the biggest Nitro main event ever!

You mean every nitro was "The greatest night in the history of our sport"

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Lol, biggest douche bag move and sucked in it totally back fired on them.