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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:50 pm | |
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| | | KingsOwn19 Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:56 pm | |
| I can understand taking a step down in competition when on a 3 fight losing streak...but damn.
At the same time, there arent many options available right now. All the good non-UFC HW are in Strikeforce...or to a lesser extent Bellator.
It's pretty much Overeem or nothing for Fedor...i don't think they want to take a 3 fight losing streak and fight Overeem right now. | |
| | | Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:01 pm | |
| Or he could do a catchweight. Mousasi would be interesting, but I doubt they'd fight. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:27 pm | |
| Wiuff is an interesting name in that he has almost 60 professional wins now. He is at least still top 50 in my eyes. He is much like a Monson in the division in that regard but with a focus on wrecking over subbing, and he is monstrous in size. Whitehead is a joke to for someone to name in fighting rumors for Fedor, I'm not high on that idea as much, but if Fedor wants to fight and the door is open for challengers to come calling, I guess it could happen.
But if non-suffa names are to start rolling out, it becomes slim
The GG guys, Val, Reem, Elmino Don't know the details of Cole Konrad's contract, but it seems like he never fights. AA Pedro Rizzo Shamil Abdurahimov Gabriel Gonzaga Peter Graham Damian Grabowski Ricco Rodriguez Glover Teixeira Jeff Monson Tim Sylvia Abe Wagner Satoshi Ishii - Dream Guram Gugenishvili - M-1 Stipe Miocic Gilbert yvel Dion Staring - Ultimate Glory Paul Buentello Todd Duffee - Dream Marcio Cruz Maxim Grishin Thiago Santos Jake OBrien - Dream | |
| | | captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:47 pm | |
| Dude get Ricco. That would be sick. | |
| | | bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:50 pm | |
| Openweight fight with Lombard | |
| | | captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:59 pm | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- Openweight fight with Lombard
I laughed at first, but I'd actually like to see that. But might be a bit too risky for M-1. I think Ricco is the guy. He's a name, he's been winning recently so the hardcore fan might accept it, he is about his weight. And Fedor could not possibly lose right? | |
| | | LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:48 am | |
| Glover, now that'd be risky
AA's chin said no thanks
Stipe Miocic is in the UFC, fighting Beltran I thought, win BTW.
I'd watch Gonzo, at least he has some name rec
Doubt M-1 would do Guram
I like Monson or Ricco I guess | |
| | | captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:35 am | |
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| | | EliteAcidBurn Green Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:49 pm | |
| If this is the level of fighter , he is choosing to fight, hand picking cans for a lower level of competiiton.....then i say just retire Fedor, enough is enough....Noone wants to see you fight cans now, because you cant hang with the top dogs.
I know i cant be be the only thinking this ....right?
Kevin Randleman....i mean CMONNNNNNN | |
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:11 pm | |
| - EliteAcidBurn wrote:
- If this is the level of fighter , he is choosing to fight, hand picking cans for a lower level of competiiton.....then i say just retire Fedor, enough is enough....Noone wants to see you fight cans now, because you cant hang with the top dogs.
I know i cant be be the only thinking this ....right?
Kevin Randleman....i mean CMONNNNNNN We have to be a little more fair than this. There is NO heavyweight in limbo outside of UFC, Strikeforce, and Bellator that would be a suitable opponent for Fedor other than Alistair Overeem. This would mean M-1 and Golden Glory..sworn enemies would have to make a deal and that won't happen without Strikeforce being a mediator in the whole situation...these guys won't talk to eachother and its mainly GG who hates M-1 Fedor does not have a single HW to his disposal that won't draw groans from fans and we also have to take into account that not everybody would be willing to fight Fedor. | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:20 pm | |
| - EliteAcidBurn wrote:
- If this is the level of fighter , he is choosing to fight, hand picking cans for a lower level of competiiton.....then i say just retire Fedor, enough is enough....Noone wants to see you fight cans now, because you cant hang with the top dogs.
I know i cant be be the only thinking this ....right?
Kevin Randleman....i mean CMONNNNNNN cheese and rice dude! who is he gonna fight outside of Zuffa? And he can't hang with top dogs? gtfo | |
| | | josh200612 Silver Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:27 pm | |
| Elite is right. Fedor just needs to be a pan handler on the streets now with a sign that says "will fight cans for free" " could not run with the big dogs so now I'm on the porch" " Bodog you still have my number right?". | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:28 pm | |
| - josh200612 wrote:
- Elite is right. Fedor just needs to be a pan handler on the streets now with a sign that says "will fight cans for free" " could not run with the big dogs so now I'm on the porch" " Bodog you still have my number right?".
you stay out of this mister! | |
| | | josh200612 Silver Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:33 pm | |
| - killerofchicken wrote:
- josh200612 wrote:
- Elite is right. Fedor just needs to be a pan handler on the streets now with a sign that says "will fight cans for free" " could not run with the big dogs so now I'm on the porch" " Bodog you still have my number right?".
you stay out of this mister! LOL I can't help it man it's just embarrassing for Fedor. He needs to ditch the management they have been holding him back for years. I still say that if he would have fought the best of the best after Pride maybe his fight game would have evolved and maybe he wouldn't be such a little bitch now. He needs to train with a camp that will whoop his ass and not suck his dick he needs to be treated like a dog then maybe he will snap out of it. Other than that I think he will lose his next fight BOOKMARKED! | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:35 pm | |
| - josh200612 wrote:
- killerofchicken wrote:
- josh200612 wrote:
- Elite is right. Fedor just needs to be a pan handler on the streets now with a sign that says "will fight cans for free" " could not run with the big dogs so now I'm on the porch" " Bodog you still have my number right?".
you stay out of this mister!
LOL I can't help it man it's just embarrassing for Fedor. He needs to ditch the management they have been holding him back for years. I still say that if he would have fought the best of the best after Pride maybe his fight game would have evolved and maybe he wouldn't be such a little bitch now. He needs to train with a camp that will whoop his ass and not suck his dick he needs to be treated like a dog then maybe he will snap out of it. Other than that I think he will lose his next fight BOOKMARKED! his management? M1 you mean? the company he part owns? yeah, very smart business move right there | |
| | | josh200612 Silver Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:40 pm | |
| - killerofchicken wrote:
- josh200612 wrote:
- killerofchicken wrote:
- josh200612 wrote:
- Elite is right. Fedor just needs to be a pan handler on the streets now with a sign that says "will fight cans for free" " could not run with the big dogs so now I'm on the porch" " Bodog you still have my number right?".
you stay out of this mister!
LOL I can't help it man it's just embarrassing for Fedor. He needs to ditch the management they have been holding him back for years. I still say that if he would have fought the best of the best after Pride maybe his fight game would have evolved and maybe he wouldn't be such a little bitch now. He needs to train with a camp that will whoop his ass and not suck his dick he needs to be treated like a dog then maybe he will snap out of it. Other than that I think he will lose his next fight BOOKMARKED! his management? M1 you mean? the company he part owns? yeah, very smart business move right there What money are they making besides off of Fedor? The stupid show on Showtime? That will be canceled as soon as the contract is up Fedor is their only draw and leverage in any conversation. What he owns 3%? Those guys are playing him like a puppet running him into the ground. | |
| | | Andrew the Raider King Red Belt
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| Subject: The cans are starting to align for Fedor Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:11 am | |
| http://espn.go.com/blog/mma/post?id=3680by Chuck Mindenhall It wasn’t quite two weeks ago that Fedor Emelianenko lost to Dan Henderson and had people wondering if that was his unceremonious outro. Almost everybody wanted to know, after his third straight loss, if that was the last time we’d see Fedor compete. Then almost as suddenly it was determined that Fedor wasn’t done yet -- not by a long shot, ya’ll! -- and Kevin Randleman’s name was running up the flagpole as a possible opponent for a fall card to be held in his native Russia. Kevin Randleman? If that's true, well ... at least we have an answer, and that is -- yes, it seems Fedor is done competing. Here is what his manager and head of M-1 Vadim Finkelstein allegedly told the Russian website Champion AT when asked who Fedor’s next opponent would be: “There are many possibilities. I personally want the opponent to be one of the great fighters from Pride’s best times. It would be good if it was an interesting and competitive fighter, like for instance, Kevin Randleman. At any rate, we will chose a competitive, globally respected fighter.” Interesting, marginally (in an uncanny resemblance to Grace Jones kind of way). But competitive? That’s borderline insulting. Unlike Dan Henderson, who is 40 years old and looking 28, Randleman is more the usual kind of 40-year-old who loses to guys like Baga Agaev via first round submissions. He has dropped four fights in a row and eight of 10 fights going back to the first time he fought (and was destroyed by) Fedor Emelianenko in Pride’s heavyweight grand prix back in 2004. Randleman is cooked. And that’s exactly why Fedor’s camp is hand-selecting him to get off the skids. A warm body with a subliminal link to the past that Fedor can waltz through. Yet even using the word subliminal in discussing Randleman seems sort of irresponsible. The better words might be “transparent” and “desperate.” Before Randleman’s name was raised, others like prolific journeyman Travis Wiuff and Mike Whitehead were mentioned in connection to Fedor. This gives you an idea of the value we’re talking for the string of upcoming fights for the “Last Emperor.” The idea is to restock his emptied legacy with -- what they hope to be -- an assortment of donated cans. And in the end, maybe that’s the best way to go about things when options are down to a scant few. Maybe a couple of wins and some Dutch training and Fedor returns to prominence. At least that’s what M-1 is now hinging on. As for Fedor himself, he would likely have no qualms whether you put Randleman in front of him, or Cain Velasquez. Fighting is what he knows. He just does what he’s instructed to do. But Randleman is a hard sell as anything compelling. And the idea to revisit “Pride’s best times” comes off as a strange piece of nostalgia to roll with in discussing a man who has always been, in the very least, a prideful competitor. | |
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:14 am | |
| We already have a "Fedor is fighting a can" thread. | |
| | | Andrew the Raider King Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:19 am | |
| Then kill this one for me... | |
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:24 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:56 am | |
| Here is something you guys will love. http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/8/12/2358713/m-1-global-master-tapes-up-for-auction-mma-newsby Mike Fagan Christmas is always around the corner, and what better for the MMA fan in your life than than M-1 Global's master tapes from 2008 and 2009? Relive that pivotal MMA moment when some guy with four consecutive consonants in his last name took on some American washout in a battle for national pride! Where can you find this deal? Why, on eBay of course! Middle Easy found the auction yesterday when bidding opened at a penny coupled with an outrageous $49,999.99 shipping fee for "171 large mouth Sony HD Cam 124 minute tapes." (The winner also receives an autographed Fedor glove!) Why the exorbitant asking price? According to the description, the tapes were being sold as a result of non-payment for production costs. Presumably, $50,000 covers most/all of those costs. The seller's account, m1clearencesale (and tag a big ol' sic on that), led back to one man: Gary "Jerry" Millen. Middle Easy caught up with him: "I left M1 and it was amicable, but there was a huge amount of money still owed to me for the M1 Series production. I was told I would be taken care of, and I never was. A portion of the money owed was supposed to be for the M1 commentators, Jimmy Smith and Sean Wheelock. They were never paid by M-1, so I paid them out of my own pocket."
"I'm selling these tapes as a way to recoup the substantial amount of money that is owned to me. M1 didn't pay the invoices and the past year and a half they've been giving me BS excuses. I know financially things aren't well for them, but this is a complete reflection of M1. This is not aimed to hurt Fedor Emelianenko in anyway. He's been completely mismanaged. I hate to say that Dana White is right, but he's 100% right with most of the comments he's made towards M-1. They unfortunately ruined Fedor's career. Can it be salvaged? Sure. But M1 as a management company is ridiculous. You got to remember everyone at M1 left and they put Evgeni Kogan, a translator, virtually in charge of the company. Director of Operations? What is that? When we were there, we actually had revenue coming in and was producing a product. Now they have nothing coming in and it's in complete disarray. You can't put a translator in charge of running a company."
Or can you? Since the auction opened, Millen has reduced the shipping to $2,000. The current bid, as of midnight ET, has climbed to $202.50 (though the reserve has not been met). Bidding ends in six days. Think of all the M-1 highlights you could put up on Youtube. | |
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:59 am | |
| Jerry Millen? Bwahahahhaa!!
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| | | josh200612 Silver Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:32 pm | |
| Who would want that pile of crap? | |
| | | Andrew the Raider King Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: Wiuff, Whitehead named as possible opponents for Fedor Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:36 pm | |
| What's wrong? Did HMC retire? What about a Hollywood tough guy? | |
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