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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: BJ Penn Calls out TRT, Roiders and Roiders coaches Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:21 am | |
| CHeck out his Twitter he went off | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: BJ Penn Calls out TRT, Roiders and Roiders coaches Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:11 pm | |
| Penn - dope and see what your cardio does. Just try it man, for our sake as fans. | |
| | | LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: BJ Penn Calls out TRT, Roiders and Roiders coaches Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:17 pm | |
| Nah, BJ's a pure fighter, no need for that noise.
BJ just train like the other guys do and consistently train with top guys.
Best natural born fighter ever IMO | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: BJ Penn Calls out TRT, Roiders and Roiders coaches Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:34 pm | |
| Fedor by a mile. Never lost all the big fights like Penn did and wasn't squashed by larger fighters until he entered the twilight of his career.
Penn is/was a great natural fighter, but there are a lot of guys in this discussion. I am so over the "Penn for GOAT using ________ metric that justifies XYZ flaw or loss or issue that plagued his career" | |
| | | LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: BJ Penn Calls out TRT, Roiders and Roiders coaches Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:47 pm | |
| Lost all the big fights? Losing to the greatest WW ever and one of the greatest fighters ever isn't a big deal to me, Hughes.., same thing and BJ owns that 2-1, Machida... natural LW vs LHW no big deal, Pulver another alltime great (dec can be questioned) and he's really 1-1 with Frankie who is as legit as they come. You could nit pick Fedor's resume at this point to.
But this isn't about using some _____metric, not sure what that's about anyways. More just saying BJ is the greatest natural fighter ever, BJJ, Boxing, Wrestling (takedown D), handspeed, weird flexability. His problems are all training related in all honesty, at least IMO. GSP out athleted him to me too. Fedor is right there, but I have BJ's overall natural talent tops. | |
| | | acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: Re: BJ Penn Calls out TRT, Roiders and Roiders coaches Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:35 pm | |
| - LA wrote:
- Lost all the big fights? Losing to the greatest WW ever and one of the greatest fighters ever isn't a big deal to me, Hughes.., same thing and BJ owns that 2-1, Machida... natural LW vs LHW no big deal, Pulver another alltime great (dec can be questioned) and he's really 1-1 with Frankie who is as legit as they come. You could nit pick Fedor's resume at this point to.
But this isn't about using some _____metric, not sure what that's about anyways. More just saying BJ is the greatest natural fighter ever, BJJ, Boxing, Wrestling (takedown D), handspeed, weird flexability. His problems are all training related in all honesty, at least IMO. GSP out athleted him to me too. Fedor is right there, but I have BJ's overall natural talent tops. Good stuff LA. I would have never compared the two a few years ago but now.... | |
| | | josh200612 Silver Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Rashad Evans #1!,Rampage,GSP,Couture,Chael Sonnen,BJ Penn,Robbie Lawler,King MO,Frank Mir Posts : 8931 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 39 Location : Charlotte , North Carolina
| Subject: Re: BJ Penn Calls out TRT, Roiders and Roiders coaches Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:51 pm | |
| - bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
- LA wrote:
- Lost all the big fights? Losing to the greatest WW ever and one of the greatest fighters ever isn't a big deal to me, Hughes.., same thing and BJ owns that 2-1, Machida... natural LW vs LHW no big deal, Pulver another alltime great (dec can be questioned) and he's really 1-1 with Frankie who is as legit as they come. You could nit pick Fedor's resume at this point to.
But this isn't about using some _____metric, not sure what that's about anyways. More just saying BJ is the greatest natural fighter ever, BJJ, Boxing, Wrestling (takedown D), handspeed, weird flexability. His problems are all training related in all honesty, at least IMO. GSP out athleted him to me too. Fedor is right there, but I have BJ's overall natural talent tops.
Good stuff LA. I would have never compared the two a few years ago but now....
I would have. Fedor is a joke. | |
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| Subject: Re: BJ Penn Calls out TRT, Roiders and Roiders coaches Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:55 pm | |
| The dynamics of that comparison are intriguing. Fedor still my goat but maybe not my best natural fighter. Hw has never been as stout as lw or ww imo, reason bj could not reach the accomplishments of fedor. Fun thoughts. When I'm off my phone I might write a chapter about it. | |
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| Subject: Re: BJ Penn Calls out TRT, Roiders and Roiders coaches Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:01 am | |
| Penn might have excellent skill but Fedor achieved more. Penn's lack of cardio training cost him a shot at being the GOAT. He didn't have to do steroids to achieve that. |
| | | LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: BJ Penn Calls out TRT, Roiders and Roiders coaches Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:28 am | |
| Reading my first post it's probably best said like this...
BJ is the most naturally talented fighter ever.
Fedor is the best natural born fighter ever.
It's more of what I meant with BJ. | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: BJ Penn Calls out TRT, Roiders and Roiders coaches Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:29 am | |
| BJ has natural cardio issues in that his body cannot remove lactic acid from his muscles very well. That immediately disqualifies him in my mind. Maybe in 05 he still had a case. Not now. Fedor has it all. There are a lot of "natural fighters" and with Penn's issues I can't justify sticking him in the top anymore. | |
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