Fitch will only fight BJ or GSP, even if he sits for a year

captain organic wrote:

killerofchicken wrote:

Fitch is way douchier then Jones.

Stretching it.

Fitch has a gripe, whether I like it or not. 15 ufc fights and only one official loss, that being to the p4p #1 fighter in the world. I don't like his approach verbally, I'm not a fan of him as a fighter, I'm not a real fan of the man, but he has a gripe with the way he has been handled throughout the past few years, no question about it for me. The gripe is hand in hand with the nature of this entertainment show opposing the sporting aspect of, the sport.

"so you wanna be a fucking fighter? how much money can you make me?"

The UFC doesn't market a game like football does where the players are replicable essentially, they market fighters as much as anything.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

The UFC doesn't market a game like football does where the players are replicable essentially, they market fighters as much as anything.

r u saying football does not market individual players?

Fitch should either-

a) Go to Strikeforce
b) Go to Middleweight

Why should he go to SF? Their WW division sucks monster cock. Anyone good will eventually be in the UFC anyway

captain organic wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

The UFC doesn't market a game like football does where the players are replicable essentially, they market fighters as much as anything.

r u saying football does not market individual players?

r u saying that is what they market? They market teams, the game of football, the Superbowl. Vick's, Manning's and Favre's come and go but those individual players and their styles are not what makes people watch. It's the game itself. People buy the UFC for those same letters obviously but they really buy individual fighters. Attendance and ratings for the Colts will not dramatically dip once Manning retires.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

captain organic wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

The UFC doesn't market a game like football does where the players are replicable essentially, they market fighters as much as anything.

r u saying football does not market individual players?

r u saying that is what they market? They market teams, the game of football, the Superbowl. Vick's, Manning's and Favre's come and go but those individual players and their styles are not what makes people watch. It's the game itself. People buy the UFC for those same letters obviously but they really buy individual fighters. Attendance and ratings for the Colts will not dramatically dip once Manning retires.

I'll totally disagree. Lets see how many sunday night, and monday night games the Colts get when Manning retires. The league totally markets players. There is a reason the QB is so protected in today's NFL, those guys are franchise faces.

The league doesn't live or die by players like MMA does. The game in itself is why people watch. This is true with baseball as well, and a much lesser extent the NBA which does market stars to an extent more. But MMA, no, MMA fans don't buy a UFC event as much as a UFC event with GSP fighting. You're getting off tangent here. My analogy works.

Nah, your analogy is faulty. On both sides of the equation. Average MMA fans also notoriously ignore big non UFC fights.

Average NFL fans go bonkers over Manning vs Brady.

why would he go to SF? They have NOTHING to offer him there, he'll get a good fight down the road

Because it looks like he'll never get a title shot in the UFC.

he will if he was to win his next fight. he has to

killerofchicken wrote:

he will if he was to win his next fight. he has to

We've said the same thing for his past 3 fights.

captain organic wrote:

Nah, your analogy is faulty. On both sides of the equation. Average MMA fans also notoriously ignore big non UFC fights.

Average NFL fans go bonkers over Manning vs Brady.

Manning vs Brady doesn't make or break the NFL. Rashad can fight Rampage and do a million or he can fight Thiago Silva and barely do 300k. There is no variance to that degree with the NFL which markets a sport which is roughly as enjoyable no matter who the skill players are aesthetically, where as the difference in fighting style and personality have a significantly larger impact on for MMA.

You're smarter than the side digression you're being hung up on;

Yes the NFL markets stars. No shit. Don't let this distract you from the point please.

No the NFL's day in day out success isn't reliant on who exactly is playing. The UFC's is. This is the difference.

Fitch has a legit beef about being overlooked but I dont think he beat BJ and he even admitted he fucked up in that fight. I would love to see Diaz beat GSP and then BJ beat Condit to get the title shot but since that probably wont happen i will root for Fitch to fight Diaz when GSP PROBABLY wins.

Fitch easily beat Penn. You must have been watching another fight.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

captain organic wrote:

Nah, your analogy is faulty. On both sides of the equation. Average MMA fans also notoriously ignore big non UFC fights.

Average NFL fans go bonkers over Manning vs Brady.

Manning vs Brady doesn't make or break the NFL. Rashad can fight Rampage and do a million or he can fight Thiago Silva and barely do 300k. There is no variance to that degree with the NFL which markets a sport which is roughly as enjoyable no matter who the skill players are aesthetically, where as the difference in fighting style and personality have a significantly larger impact on for MMA.

You're smarter than the side digression you're being hung up on;

Yes the NFL markets stars. No shit. Don't let this distract you from the point please.

No the NFL's day in day out success isn't reliant on who exactly is playing. The UFC's is. This is the difference.

dude u lost this debate when u said this "ratings for the Colts will not dramatically dip once Manning retires."

freakzilla wrote:

Fitch easily beat Penn. You must have been watching another fight.

Please Freak. BJ won the first 2 rounds and lost the 3rd. As long as the scoring for fights is in its current format BJ definitely could have won that fight. I thought he won the first 2 and lost the 3rd. The 3rd was debatable if it was a 10-8 or not but i thought it wasnt, hence BJ winning for me. Total fight Fitch did more damage because of the 3rd but thats about it. not as cut and dry as u might think.

timthebim wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

Fitch easily beat Penn. You must have been watching another fight.

Please Freak. BJ won the first 2 rounds and lost the 3rd. As long as the scoring for fights is in its current format BJ definitely could have won that fight. I thought he won the first 2 and lost the 3rd. The 3rd was debatable if it was a 10-8 or not but i thought it wasnt, hence BJ winning for me. Total fight Fitch did more damage because of the 3rd but thats about it. not as cut and dry as u might think.

thats why i love draws. clearly imo this fight was a draw. i hope there are more draws done the road. nothing better than a draw compared to a bad dec. one thing was clear though had the match been a 5 rounder, something epic, fitch would of finished bj.

throwdownfight1 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

freakzilla wrote:

Fitch easily beat Penn. You must have been watching another fight.

Please Freak. BJ won the first 2 rounds and lost the 3rd. As long as the scoring for fights is in its current format BJ definitely could have won that fight. I thought he won the first 2 and lost the 3rd. The 3rd was debatable if it was a 10-8 or not but i thought it wasnt, hence BJ winning for me. Total fight Fitch did more damage because of the 3rd but thats about it. not as cut and dry as u might think.

thats why i love draws. clearly imo this fight was a draw. i hope there are more draws done the road. nothing better than a draw compared to a bad dec. one thing was clear though had the match been a 5 rounder, something epic, fitch would of finished bj.

Probably so.

Fitch won rd 2.

I like the pissed off Fitch. Now he just needs to back it up and finish someone spectacularly(I want it to be Diaz) and give GSP a run for his money at minimum.

freakzilla wrote:

Fitch won rd 2.

I disagree. I thought BJ won rounds 1 and 2.

Farmer1906 wrote:

I like the pissed off Fitch. Now he just needs to back it up and finish someone spectacularly(I want it to be Diaz) and give GSP a run for his money at minimum.

Don't hold ur breath on that one. 4 yrs and counting.

At a certain point though he has to realize it is killing his career that he is sooooooo boring.