Struve up to 262 lbs.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/1/Under-Construction-Skyscraper-in-Progress-32532

Kind of buried in this story here.

But I've said it b4, when this guy starts cutting weight to make the hwy limit, he then becomes very dangerous. Still only 23. and thus Im liking the matchups we are seeing Struve in. The Brownes of the world are just the type of guys he has, and should be facing. at least for the next couple years.


Wasn't aware that he was even on this sat's card, that has peaked my interest.

He's pretty lame.

I'm totally unimpressed with Browne. Struve should take this unless he gets drawn into a stupid slugfest early on and gets caught while Browne is still fresh. He has the advantage on the ground, cardio, and is a better technical striker too

I was funny enough gonna make a thread asking if anyone thinks Struve will ever be a top 10 HW. Like you said he's 23 and his frame could easily pack on a shit ton of muscle. He'll also have faced top level competition from a young age.

just dont think the kid has the chin to really make an impact on the sport

Birdofthad wrote:

just dont think the kid has the chin to really make an impact on the sport

you base that off the fact that he got KO'd by Nelson and JDS? two of the harder hitting HWs in the world?

yep, you can improve alot of skills, but you cant make your chin better, especially when youve already been knocked out twice in the first round by top 10 guys when your young.

Struve has taken a lot of beatings already. But I think he could be a top ten threat eventually.

Struve does have a questionable chin, but he has a great heart and the talent to go with it. His hands aren't light, so he is a legit threat in the HW realm.

i find it disturbing that you guys question a dudes chin after he's been ko'd by some of the hardest punchers in MMA... and he didnt even go out against JDS... give him a chance fer cryin' out loud

I agree Killer.

One of my biggest MMA peeves is dude gets knocked out and then there is a question mark on the chin.

I'm not so much a believer of weak chins, then i am of poor defense. Even Arlovski has been KO'd by shots that would KO just about anybody except the Sylvia fight some years back. His problem is not the chin, but the fact that he leaves it open for the big shot. Struve is no exception. Nelson and JDS laid him the fuck out with bombs,

and those are his only KO losses too... plus he's a young cat, give him some time to get used to getting tagged and he'll recover quicker

Struve definitely has the skills to become a top 10 HW if he decides to develop his defense along with his frame.

He wasn't Ko'd but he was knocked senseless and rolled into a choke from M'pumbu. In the fights he wins he also takes beatings.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

He wasn't Ko'd but he was knocked senseless and rolled into a choke from M'pumbu. Even in the fights he wins he also takes beatings in .

Yes he does.

The next Reem? Kind of...

KingsOwn19 wrote:

I agree Killer.

One of my biggest MMA peeves is dude gets knocked out and then there is a question mark on the chin.

I'm not so much a believer of weak chins, then i am of poor defense. Even Arlovski has been KO'd by shots that would KO just about anybody except the Sylvia fight some years back. His problem is not the chin, but the fact that he leaves it open for the big shot. Struve is no exception. Nelson and JDS laid him the fuck out with bombs,

gotta disagree, some guys like Evander Holyfield are born with a mechanism that takes punches, Struve doesnt have it, Theres a difference between leaving yourself open, or not taking punches well (Brock) and just being knocked out senseless by 1 shot.

when 1 shot can turn your lights off, you have a chin problem especially if its happening at a young age.

The shots he took from Nelson and JDS KO just about any HW.

He was a 22 year old kid and took multiple shots before getting dropped against JDS (one of the best strikers in the World). He was eventually put down by a huge hook to his temple.

Against Nelson, he took a huge shot, but wasn't even straight KO'd, it was called after follow up GnP.

At HW in MMA some of those boxing rules bird is going by don't matter as much, but overall getting knocked out with regularity obviously isn't a great sign.

The shots that put him down would drop Overeem in his tracks as well.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

I agree Killer.

One of my biggest MMA peeves is dude gets knocked out and then there is a question mark on the chin.

I'm not so much a believer of weak chins, then i am of poor defense. Even Arlovski has been KO'd by shots that would KO just about anybody except the Sylvia fight some years back. His problem is not the chin, but the fact that he leaves it open for the big shot. Struve is no exception. Nelson and JDS laid him the fuck out with bombs,

C'mon man. AA's chin is soft. Chuck's chin became super soft. Michael Grant back in the day was super soft chin.

On the other hand

Nick diaz, great chin. Hendo, great chin. Leben, great chin.

I hold these truths to be self evident.

Diaz has a decent chin but I've seen him dropped a lot in Strikeforce.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Diaz has a decent chin but I've seen him dropped a lot in Strikeforce.

but the guy constantly stands and engages with dangerous strikers, so it is to be expected that he will get hit with a big shot from time to time. And he said in discussing the zaromskis fight that he will drop to the mat cause he's comfortable there. And against the Zaromskis, Cyborg, Daley's of the world it is a pretty good way of clearing the cobwebs.

Would that work vs GSP? Maybe not, but I don't see GSP dropping Diaz with a big shot either.

GSP has dropped Alves, Fitch, Shields, Hughes and Hieron with strikes just off the top of my head. That is a good chunk of the top ten or twelve in the world right there. To think Diaz is immune to GSP's punches or kicks is over stating the issue with GSP. He doesn't race in with killer intent when he drops guys, but he routinely does.

Fitch hughes shields and Heiron are not known for their striking(heiron is quite possibily the best of the group).

Alves was totally out of his game by the time GSP controlled the striking(this is your own argument).


Could GSP take Diaz out of his game in a similar way? Again, Maybe. but I wonder how tepid GSP might be when in Diaz's gaurd.