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Still waiting to hear back from the UFC. I have said "yes" to facing either Koscheck or Fitch at UFC 135. I should know more later.
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That doesn't sound right... He matches up better with Fitch? Then wouldn't you rather see him beat Kos?

I'd rather him beat Kos cause I cannot stand that asshole, but I think Kos is a bad match up for Hughes. Fitch on the other hand still needs his ass kicked for being a baby and calling out Hughes, but doesn't pose near the threat standing as Kos. Plus Fitch doesn't have the takedown defense and power double leg like Kos does.
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Farmer1906 wrote:
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That doesn't sound right... He matches up better with Fitch? Then wouldn't you rather see him beat Kos?

I'd rather him beat Kos cause I cannot stand that asshole, but I think Kos is a bad match up for Hughes. Fitch on the other hand still needs his ass kicked for being a baby and calling out Hughes, but doesn't pose near the threat standing as Kos. Plus Fitch doesn't have the takedown defense and power double leg like Kos does.
Fitch has better stand up than Kos... and is a much better fighter overall... just sayin
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Farmer1906 wrote:
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That doesn't sound right... He matches up better with Fitch? Then wouldn't you rather see him beat Kos?

I'd rather him beat Kos cause I cannot stand that asshole, but I think Kos is a bad match up for Hughes. Fitch on the other hand still needs his ass kicked for being a baby and calling out Hughes, but doesn't pose near the threat standing as Kos. Plus Fitch doesn't have the takedown defense and power double leg like Kos does.
Fitch has better stand up than Kos... and is a much better fighter overall... just sayin

Fitch's stand up is nothing to write home about. He's good at everything and rides your back. Kos throws power and would stuff Hughes's takedowns. Hughes would grind right back at Fitch and match him to make a boring yet relatively even match up. Just how I see it.
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PostSubject: Re: Josh Koscheck vs Matt Hughes confirmed for 135   Josh Koscheck vs Matt Hughes confirmed for 135 - Page 4 EmptyTue Sep 06, 2011 4:00 pm

Hughes has a better shot of beating Fitch than he does Kos.
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PostSubject: Re: Josh Koscheck vs Matt Hughes confirmed for 135   Josh Koscheck vs Matt Hughes confirmed for 135 - Page 4 EmptyTue Sep 06, 2011 4:16 pm

no fucking way IMO
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PostSubject: Re: Josh Koscheck vs Matt Hughes confirmed for 135   Josh Koscheck vs Matt Hughes confirmed for 135 - Page 4 EmptyTue Sep 06, 2011 4:31 pm

timthebim wrote:
Hughes has a better shot of beating Fitch than he does Kos.

Style wise definitely agree
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If Matt Hughes is up for this fight, he can win it. But if he is there for a paycheck, he will look like Griffin did against Rua in Rio...
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Andrew the Raider King wrote:
If Matt Hughes is up for this fight, he can win it. But if he is there for a paycheck, he will look like Griffin did against Rua in Rio...

I don't think Forrest or Matt are doing it for paychecks.

I think Matt is in a similar position to Tito v Badar or Nog v Schaub. The old vet is supposed to be getting put down by the young star, but we'll see if they have similar endings.

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Andrew the Raider King wrote:
If Matt Hughes is up for this fight, he can win it. But if he is there for a paycheck, he will look like Griffin did against Rua in Rio...



I dont remember hughes just showing up for a check before so i say he comes game and ready to give a good effort.
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PostSubject: Re: Josh Koscheck vs Matt Hughes confirmed for 135   Josh Koscheck vs Matt Hughes confirmed for 135 - Page 4 EmptyTue Sep 06, 2011 5:26 pm

I hope you are right guys, but I would have been happier if he came in, won, then retired...I hate watching them putter away from the sport.
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hughes is getting stopped in the first round against either one
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lets not forget what happened last time kos fought on a 2 weeks notice, he lost to a guy he shouldnt of beaten, then again hughes a young hungry ww as he once was
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timthebim wrote:
Hughes has a better shot of beating Fitch than he does Kos.

Agree.
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lets not forget what happened last time kos fought on a 2 weeks notice, he lost to a guy he shouldnt of beaten, then again hughes a young hungry ww as he once was

Can I get that in english?
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I got......Matt Hughes.
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Ludo wrote:
throwdownfight1 wrote:
lets not forget what happened last time kos fought on a 2 weeks notice, he lost to a guy he shouldnt of beaten, then again hughes a young hungry ww as he once was

Can I get that in english?


LMAO I was thinking this also.
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lol!
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I got......Matt Hughes.


Really? How do u think he wins?
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I got......Matt Hughes.


Really? How do u think he wins?

via old man strength....and long layoff and soul drainage for Koscheck.
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timthebim wrote:
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I got......Matt Hughes.


Really? How do u think he wins?

via old man strength....and long layoff and soul drainage for Koscheck.
long layoff goes both ways
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PostSubject: Re: Josh Koscheck vs Matt Hughes confirmed for 135   Josh Koscheck vs Matt Hughes confirmed for 135 - Page 4 EmptyTue Sep 06, 2011 10:56 pm

soul drainage is a legit concern. long layoff and short notice is a weird combo as well.
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killerofchicken wrote:
KingsOwn19 wrote:
timthebim wrote:
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I got......Matt Hughes.


Really? How do u think he wins?

via old man strength....and long layoff and soul drainage for Koscheck.
long layoff goes both ways

true, but Matt Hughes has been training to fight a high level WW for the past several months...Koscheck was unsure if he was even going to continue fighting at WW a week ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Josh Koscheck vs Matt Hughes confirmed for 135   Josh Koscheck vs Matt Hughes confirmed for 135 - Page 4 EmptyTue Sep 06, 2011 11:06 pm

Hughes was training to fight a much different fighter than Koscheck. He was training for a fighter who likes to grind shit out and never stops coming forward. Koscheck is much more calculated and explosive. Hughes has one option here to win and thats submission. It's more likely he gets put down hard ala Frank Trigg. Hughes has clearly lost a step, and fighting an even higher level opponent than the one he was training for is no good for him.
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