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| Subject: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:51 pm | |
| This question has caused a lot of debate on the net lately about the right answer. Some arguing that 288 is the answer while some say it's 2. Which one is right in your opinion? |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:56 pm | |
| If you follow the order of algebraic operations it's not even a matter of opinion. http://www.math.com/school/subject2/lessons/S2U1L2GL.html1. First do all operations that lie inside parentheses. 2. Next, do any work with exponents or radicals. 3. Working from left to right, do all multiplication and division. 4. Finally, working from left to right, do all addition and subtraction. So it's 48÷2(9+3) 1. (9+3)=12 2. none 3. 48÷2= 24 and 24*12=288 | |
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:16 pm | |
| Actually the parentheses is tied to the 2 in this equation.
48 ÷ 2(9+3)= 48 ÷ (18+6)= 48 ÷ 24= 2 |
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:55 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:59 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- I got 2.
I always thought you were smart. |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:02 pm | |
| The answer is 288. I don't know where the debate comes from but I've seen this on multiple boards the last few days | |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:04 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- Actually the parentheses is tied to the 2 in this equation.
this is irrelevant. Order of operations clearly states to perform all multiplication and division working from left to right. This means the division of 48 by 2 occurs before the multiplication the product of 12 in the parenthesis. 48 ÷ 2(9+3)= (48/2) * (9+3) It's 288 This is 5th grade stuff here. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:14 pm | |
| LOL dumb shit people think of, but
Order of operations would be correct as stated above
Parenthesis first
Then left to right
48÷2*(9+3 or 12) = 288
I can see how it could trick someone though
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NJBeatdown86 Blue Belt
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:59 pm | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:20 pm | |
| I thought it was 2.
I thought you did inside the parenthesis then worked left to right | |
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:23 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:17 pm | |
| It's 2 people.
If you replace the 2 with x the question becomes 48 % X(9+3) = ? You do the bracket first 48 % (9x + 3x) = ? That becomes 48 % 12X = ? That becomes 4 % X = ? Replace X with 2 That becomes 4 % 2 = ? The answer is 2. |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:27 pm | |
| Just because you were taught/insist on using juxtaposition and incorrectly use the law of distribution doesn't make it 2. simply put the equation is poorly written but at the end of the day it is equal to (48÷2)(9+3). Your trying to change the equation itself by inserting an entirely new set of parenthesis and changing it from 48÷2(9+3) to 48÷(2(9+3)).
Just because it was deliberately written in a manner to cause confusion doesn't change the proper mathematical process involved in solving it. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:28 pm | |
| Wolfram Alpha is on the side of 288
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:29 pm | |
| No. If 2=x and you substitute the 2 with x you will get what I said. It doesn't change anything |
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:30 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:32 pm | |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:34 pm | |
| The Order of operations is not. Also, we are not solving for X here, there is no X. We are also not finding the common denominator here. It's a basic algebraic equation. As it's written we must solve whats INSIDE the parenthesis, and then move on to solving multiplication and division on a single tier from left to right. PEMDAS is a mnemonic and not meant to impose an absolute but remind someone of the order of operations. P>E>M>D>A>S is not how it was intended to be used. | |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:34 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:38 pm | |
| - Ludo wrote:
- The Order of operations is not. Also, we are not solving for X here, there is no X. We are also not finding the common denominator here. It's a basic algebraic equation. As it's written we must solve whats INSIDE the parenthesis, and then move on to solving multiplication and division on a single tier from left to right. PEMDAS is a mnemonic and not meant to impose an absolute but remind someone of the order of operations. P>E>M>D>A>S is not how it was intended to be used.
Why can't you make it so you solve X? The equation should be the same and the process the same. |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:40 pm | |
| Because solving for X and solving for the answer without any expressions missing shown value are reaching toward two different goals. To solve for X your looking for the value of X, instead of trying to figure out what the end result of 48÷2(9+3) is. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:43 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:44 pm | |
| If you replace the 2 with X the question becomes 48 % X(9+3) = 2 You do the bracket first 48 % (9x + 3x) = 2 That becomes 48 % 12X = 2 That becomes 4 % X = 2 This makes sense
If you replace the 2 with X the question becomes 48 % X(9+3) = 288 You do the bracket first 48 % (9x + 3x) = 288 That becomes 48 % 12X = 288 That becomes 4 % X = 288 This doesn't |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:47 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- If you replace the 2 with X the question becomes 48 % X(9+3) = 2
You do the bracket first 48 % (9x + 3x) = 2 That becomes 48 % 12X = 2 That becomes 4 % X = 2 This makes sense
If you replace the 2 with X the question becomes 48 % X(9+3) = 288 You do the bracket first 48 % (9x + 3x) = 288 That becomes 48 % 12X = 288 That becomes 4 % X = 288 This doesn't Again your misusing the law of distribution here. Just because an x or * is missing from the equation doesn't automatically associate 2 with (9+3) and tie them together to be solved before division on the term that matches 2. | |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ? Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:53 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- If you replace the 2 with X the question becomes 48 % X(9+3) = 2
You do the bracket first 48 % (9x + 3x) = 2 That becomes 48 % 12X = 2 That becomes 4 % X = 2 This makes sense
If you replace the 2 with X the question becomes 48 % X(9+3) = 288 You do the bracket first 48 % (9x + 3x) = 288 That becomes 48 % 12X = 288 That becomes 4 % X = 288 This doesn't The reason the bottom set you posted doesn't make sense is because you've assumed that 2 is somehow defaulting to be multiplied by the values inside the parenthesis. This is not correct. It was written 48÷2(9+3) not 48÷(2(9+3)). | |
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