Did Frank Shamrock offer to take a dive against Kimbo?

http://www.cagepotato.com/jared-shaw-claims-frank-shamrock-offered-to-step-in-for-ken-shamrock-against-kimbo-and-was-willing-to-take-a-dive/

Quote :

“This is why it gets interesting because everybody thinks Jared Shaw is the center of the bomb, but the reality is Jeremy Lappen and I hate each other. There was a lot of jockeying there for position, especially after Gary left. I’m not afraid to say Jeremy has no friends in this business for a reason. It’s not that I don’t like him as a person, I just don’t like him as a businessman. I didn’t want Ken Shamrock. I never wanted Ken. If you look back on all of the press, you’ll see that I really wanted Brett Rogers. Obviously I thought that Kimbo would win the fight, but listen world, I’m not Kimbo’s fan boy, I got caught up to my allegience to him because I was very close to that team. Whether Dana admits it or not, everybody’s got favorites. Everybody’s got guys who are good business for them and that’s kind of how that transpired. I’d spend weekends in Florida hanging out with that team because we were friends and they’re still my friends today. I wanted Rogers. I thught Kimbo would win, but even if he didn’t, I knew that Rogers was marketable. He was a big black guy with a mohawk who was a really mean motherfucker and he called Kimbo out. The James Thompson fight scared the shit out of me. James Thompson was almost a guarantee from Jeremy Lappen that he was already in a body bag. Yeah right! Let’s go back and watch that fight twice. At that time we weren’t even going to go with James Thompson, we were going with I don’t remember who, but Jeremy asked me to back him to my father with James Thompson, so I backed him. I’m not going to lie. I thought Kimbo would beat him. I’d seen James get dropped by Rogers in his last fight and I’d seen James at Cage Rage, so I thought Kimbo would win. I got a little scared. Brett called him out and I started negotiating with Ken Pavia on a contract extension with Rogers and I even had to deal with Brett’s other manager at the time, Mike Riley which was very difficult because Riley and Pavia hated each other. I got an agreement on an extension because I wanted to do the fight. My father was already out and Jeremy had Doug DeLuca here and Chuck Champion and he went to them and tried to reject my extension with Rogers. Then he went and made the Ken Shamrock fight. I was the matchmaker with Rich Chou and I would make fights and we would just fight with each other over everything.”

About what really went down the night Kimbo got beat by Seth Petruzelli:

“We went with Shamrock and I never wanted that fight, but we promoted it. At the press conference things got a little out of hand for a second. Remember they pushed each other? That was real. My back really hurt afterwards because I really grabbed Kimbo and I didn’t know what was about to happen. I had to calm Kimbo down. They wanted 10 percent deducted from Ken for pushing. I had to calm them all down and then I go back to the hotel. The next day like two in the afternoon I get a text from Rich Chou that Ken is cut. Friday night, unbeknownst to me, Ken Shamrock calls Jeremy Lappen and possibly some Showtime execs and tries to get more money for the fight. Unbeknownst to me. I’ll take the Bob Arum route and say I was lying yesterday and today I’m telling the truth [about Shamrock asking for more money].I stormed to the arena and I literally tried to lunge at Ken Shamrock’s head. I was like, ‘You’re in the WWE. You really don’t think I know a razor cut? My father was a commissioner way back when. Let’s get real. What fighter is sparring the day of a fight? Rolling around on a mat? Come on, bro. I really hoped the doctors were going to let the fight go, but they wouldn’t let the fight go. Then Jeremy said he had Petruzelli and my throat dropped to my stomach because I knew that was a really bad match-up because Kimbo has bad knees. Then I called Kimbo and they didn’t even want to come to the arena. He was deflated. He was so pumped up and this deflated him. I had to convince him to come to the arena. Then I had to call Gary. He was in Washington. He had a fight that night and he sat in his hotel room on a conference call with me and Kimbo negotiating with Kimbo on behalf of CBS to get the fight off. Kimbo wanted a million dollars.”

About whether or not the fight was fixed or if he offered Seth money to keep the fight standing:

“I don’t really have a tell-all book. I don’t want to make any more money in MMA. I don’t really care what happens in my name. There was nothing fixed about that fight. I could give two shits if it went to the ground. Ken Shamrock was going to go to the ground. I was scared of this guy’s K-1 legs. There was no fix, but there was an offer of a fix that night. Should I get some police protection after this….no, just kidding. Frank Shamrock pulled me in the back of a room, turned the music up and offered to work the fight against Kimbo Slice. I almost threw up in my own stomach because I had thought for the past six months prior to that that he and Cung Le had fixed their own fight unbeknownst to me again, because I just can’t understand why Frank Shamrock didn’t go to the ground against Cung Le. I really don’t. I still don’t, but then my stomach made me throw up in my own mouth and I had to swallow it. I was like, ‘Uh, Frank, I don’t fix fights.’ And he was like, I’ll make up for my brother and…’ I was like, ‘Yo. Are you not hearing me? I don’t do that.’ Sure enough, what’s karma? I get accused of fixing a fight right after. Any day anybody in MMA wants to take a lie detecter test and someone will pay for it, I will be there to take the test and I will pass on everything I am telling you. Of course he’s going to hear it and he’s going to deny it and he’s going to swear at me. He’s going to do everything. I don’t care. I’m not trying to ruin the guy. He’s got a career, you’re not going anywhere. You’re a good announcer, your career is over and you tried to do what was best for the company because he had a piece of the company back then. He was a percentage owner. I’m not hating on him, but at the same time, I’m pure. Anyone who wants to label Jared Shaw or Gary Shaw as being unpure in the sport, you’re going to have to take a second look at what you’re thinking. Nothing is ever what it appears to be. I’m tired of living with that myself. The only other person who knows is Ariel Helwani because I told him a long time ago, but he asked me to never say anything. Sorry Ariel. After you got your story [on Zuffa buying Strikeforce] the other day, I had to give Sherdog something.”

I read that earlier today. I think Frank would have just said that to get into the cage. But then fucked Kimbo up.

OU wrote:

I read that earlier today. I think Frank would have just said that to get into the cage. But then fucked Kimbo up.

I agree.

When any Shaw be it Gary or Jared speaks...bullshit should be the first thing that comes to mind but i can see this...


but as already said, if Shamrock did offer to take a dive..it's only because there was no way they would have had Kimbo face somebody like Frank in an actual MMA fight because they knew Kimbo was nothing. Hell, i actually wonder if Ken was going to take a dive and then got cold feet about it come fight night. Bo Cantrell is a local fighter and i've heard from people that used to train with him before the Kimbo fight that he was kicked out of his gym by his coaches(i won't name drop) for throwing the fight against Kimbo. Notice how Bo hasnt fought since the Kimbo dive when he fought 5 times a year leading up to the fight? he's disgraced. Something tells me Tank Abbott laid down as well. James Thompson pretty much got robbed. Something was fishy aout the whole Ken Shamrock situation.

..and Frank totally seems like the type of person who would agree to take a dive and then pull a Bruce Willis on Pulp Fiction on the guy. He does not however, seem like a guy who would willingly lay down for anybody..especially a joke like Kimbo. So, if it did happen, i'm 100% sure Frank was just saying that so they would feel comfortable letting him in the cage. Obviously the Shaw's knew better because if they felt Frank was really going to take a dive..why not let Kimbo knock out a legend? because it wasnt going down like that and they knew it...they knew Frank.

Pretty big implications, wouldnt be surprised if he gets sued for some of the stuff he said

Personally doubt Frank would lie down for Kimbo, Bas Rutten has pretty much displaced the Ken fix thing imo, and I believe what Rutten says.

Bo Cantrell definitely didnt come to fight vs Kimbo

OU wrote:

I read that earlier today. I think Frank would have just said that to get into the cage. But then fucked Kimbo up.

How great would that have been? Both Shaw's would have had heart attacks if that happened.

said Shamrock before asking: "Where would I get the music at? What are you talking about here? Do I just carry a beatbox with me?"


pretty funny comment

For the 200th time, Frank did try to take the fight to the ground against Cung Le and Cung sprawled every time and shook frank off with ease. It happened two or three times in that fight. Cung already knew he was doing a couple of movies so for them to fix a fight with a champion who wouldn't be fighting again for two years would be stupid. It makes no sence at all.