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| Subject: Blame Japan and Coker for HW GP delay Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:25 pm | |
| http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/3/2/2024350/strikeforce-tournament-scott-coker-japan--josh-barnettZach Arnold vents: ...the fact that Scott Coker really did push all of his chips to try to run the April 9th date in Japan is absurd. Yes, I predicted that Strikeforce would try to run some if not all of Barnett's fights in Japan, but you would have to be a clueless idiot in 2011 to try to run that market - especially if you are a foreigner. What it goes to show you is what a mark Scott Coker is when it comes to Japan to ignore all the realities that were facing him and to proceed ahead as if he was running into a brick wall just for the fun of it. I'm not angry at Mr. Coker, I'm just embarrassed for him at this point. Third, the delay in the HW GP should absolutely raise red flags in the minds of fans that this ‘tournament' will even get completed. I'm not saying 100% that it won't happen be finished, but it certainly has a larger chance of not getting finished within the 2011 calendar frame. The delay also makes all the advertising for April 9th on the February show with Fedor look like a joke. Yes, there will be an April 9th event and the card will be very good, but it's not the HW GP and that's the problem you run into when you run these gimmicks, these tournaments. They suck all the oxygen out of the all for booking because that what the fans only care about it. It's like throwing a plate of red meat at a lion in a cage and then coming back for round two and giving the lion a platter full of broccoli & sprouts. Fans should have every right to be upset about the delay and what they may perceive as ‘false advertising' when it's really more or less incompetence. I don't know how many times I need to repeat this, but I will do so again: MMA fans want competency and consistency. Not one or the other, but both. Demonstrate that and you will win over fan trust. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Blame Japan and Coker for HW GP delay Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:28 pm | |
| This reminds me of that opinion piece yesterday from the ufc Australia thread. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Blame Japan and Coker for HW GP delay Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:33 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- This reminds me of that opinion piece yesterday from the ufc Australia thread.
which piece? | |
| | | captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Blame Japan and Coker for HW GP delay Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:41 pm | |
| He's embarrassed for coker? The GP is a gimmick? We should now doubt if the tourney will even be completed?
Gotta love the MMA media, so objective.
The delay is beat, no doubt about it, but like the criticism regarding the seeding of the tourney(and I'd bet this guy was heavily critical of that as well), it will be forgotten once the event nears. And if that date gets on CBS this guy's peice will look even worse.
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| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Blame Japan and Coker for HW GP delay Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:49 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- This reminds me of that opinion piece yesterday from the ufc Australia thread.
http://www.fightopinion.com/was it posted here? | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Blame Japan and Coker for HW GP delay Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:57 pm | |
| The one that disregarded objectivity and reeked of "i already have an opinion and it cannot change" and I will inflate any interpretable context to back that bias. | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Blame Japan and Coker for HW GP delay Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:58 pm | |
| Strikeforce haterism. Hack piece. Free tickets to UFC events. | |
| | | OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Blame Japan and Coker for HW GP delay Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:01 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- The one that disregarded objectivity and reeked of "i already have an opinion and it cannot change" and I will inflate any interpretable context to back that bias.
Oh, you're talking about that woman "writer" that was forced to go to the event? That dumb bitch. | |
| | | KingsOwn19 Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Blame Japan and Coker for HW GP delay Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:27 pm | |
| It's settled then. Showtime should figure out a way to get Scott Coker out as CEO of Strikeforce and get Zach Arnold in.....This guy knows whats going on.
In other words, what a jackass. | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Blame Japan and Coker for HW GP delay Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:29 pm | |
| HAHAHA, love the sign kings
the article is semi hating to say the least | |
| | | captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Blame Japan and Coker for HW GP delay Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:23 pm | |
| I think that SF is cool with the bad press, and that by delaying the fights, this will allow these guys to write more and more articles about them. cause when u mix the bad press, in with all the good press(and there has been a good amount of that too) and now u extend it out to allow more press, and SF finds themselves under the spotlight for very long amount of time.
They know that the tourney has been big news. and as much as we like to talk about momentum, the 2nd leg of the first rnd, will also be big news. And given an Overeem win, the 2nd rnd will again be big news, no matter when that thing goes down. SF does not need to rush itself through this. This is there goose. | |
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