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PostSubject: Re: Vera BACK in UFC, Thiago fight changed to NC   Vera BACK in UFC, Thiago fight changed to NC - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 23, 2011 1:46 pm

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Sure I can, I watched it happen. And besides that, since the Mir fight he is 3-6 in the UFC with zero good wins. He should be out the door

Actually 3-5(assuming the Thiago fight is a NC). And the Randy fight..........

And if Thiago was on Roid's that means nothing to u?

And I watched that fight too, it was a control fest. hardly a beatdown.
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PostSubject: Re: Vera BACK in UFC, Thiago fight changed to NC   Vera BACK in UFC, Thiago fight changed to NC - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 23, 2011 3:03 pm

Vera is like Liddell in Korea and Thailand. The UFC will keep him and let him fight on one of the cards in Thailand imo. DW said he was planning on fights in Korea or Thailand this year and having guys like Munoz and Vera will ensure a packed house.
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Yeah, just because he found out he could take him down and pass to really whatever position he felt like while pounding the hell out of him doesn't give Vera's performance any weight. Yes Vera was the technically superior striker but we knew that before the fight even started. What we didn't know was that Thiago was capable of completely raping Brandon on the ground, and get him there at will.


1)Thiago, save for a 1 minute stretch late in the 3rd, did not pound the hell out of Vera.

2) while we may have thought Vera was the more techinical striker, did anyone think Thiago would want no part of a standing affair?

3)I don't know what he was on, but if it was a legit PED, I'd think that would play a huge part in his ability to take down, and keep down Vera.

King's likes to say "who cares" when it comes to ped's in sports, but the guys that don't take ped's are at a major disadvantage in relation.


Why are you assuming it's PED's though? He's never popped a test before and while steroids can be used to heal from back surgery he would have filed that with the Athletic Commission with a doctor recommendation and there would be no problem. More likely this is a painkiller issue having to do with his back surgery which gives Vera jack shit to stand on here. It's not an uneven playing field if PED's aren't the cause.
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Baroni is on a roll. He does some jrunk singing for big john too recently.
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PostSubject: Re: Vera BACK in UFC, Thiago fight changed to NC   Vera BACK in UFC, Thiago fight changed to NC - Page 2 EmptyWed Feb 23, 2011 5:57 pm

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Yeah, just because he found out he could take him down and pass to really whatever position he felt like while pounding the hell out of him doesn't give Vera's performance any weight. Yes Vera was the technically superior striker but we knew that before the fight even started. What we didn't know was that Thiago was capable of completely raping Brandon on the ground, and get him there at will.


1)Thiago, save for a 1 minute stretch late in the 3rd, did not pound the hell out of Vera.

2) while we may have thought Vera was the more techinical striker, did anyone think Thiago would want no part of a standing affair?

3)I don't know what he was on, but if it was a legit PED, I'd think that would play a huge part in his ability to take down, and keep down Vera.

King's likes to say "who cares" when it comes to ped's in sports, but the guys that don't take ped's are at a major disadvantage in relation.


Why are you assuming it's PED's though? He's never popped a test before and while steroids can be used to heal from back surgery he would have filed that with the Athletic Commission with a doctor recommendation and there would be no problem. More likely this is a painkiller issue having to do with his back surgery which gives Vera jack shit to stand on here. It's not an uneven playing field if PED's aren't the cause.

I was not making an assumption, the "if" is right there in my post.

But most r acting like it doesn't matter if it was a PED or not.
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I think if Vera was on PED's he would still lose to Silva.
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I think if Vera was on PED's he would still lose to Silva.

Where is that goddamn rep system when i need to give a fuckin +1?

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I think if Vera was on PED's he would still lose to Silva.

Where is that goddamn rep system when i need to give a fuckin +1?



oh please, the fight was pretty competitive, and the winner may have been on a PED, while Vera came out clean.
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if pretty competitive means all silva all the time then you have a point.
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