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captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:04 pm | |
| - Ludo wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- So Brock will have been given a title shot with only 1 win, and then will be given a shot coming off a loss?
A loss in which he lost the title after having one of the most successful heavyweight title runs in UFC history. Plus he's a big draw and a big name opponent for JDS. Because the division has been notoriously weak, does not mean that 2 title defenses is impressive. And he got his ass kicked in his last go. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:05 pm | |
| - LA wrote:
- Ludo wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- So Brock will have been given a title shot with only 1 win, and then will be given a shot coming off a loss?
A loss in which he lost the title after having one of the most successful heavyweight title runs in UFC history. Plus he's a big draw and a big name opponent for JDS. This
And looking at the landscape in the division right now
This isn't SF, you don't give guys coming off losses Title shots when there actually is better opponents. Total double standard. And given that the UFC didn't get into the MMA business a couple years ago, and claims itself the holy grail of MMA, one would think they would set a higher bar then SF. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:07 pm | |
| - captain organic wrote:
- Ludo wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- So Brock will have been given a title shot with only 1 win, and then will be given a shot coming off a loss?
A loss in which he lost the title after having one of the most successful heavyweight title runs in UFC history. Plus he's a big draw and a big name opponent for JDS.
Because the division has been notoriously weak, does not mean that 2 title defenses is impressive.
And he got his ass kicked in his last go.
Weak? what does it have 6 top 10 guys? He lost his Title after a good run, there is no other outright top contenders at the moment, therefore this fight wouldn't be bad in the least. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:10 pm | |
| - captain organic wrote:
- LA wrote:
- Ludo wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- So Brock will have been given a title shot with only 1 win, and then will be given a shot coming off a loss?
A loss in which he lost the title after having one of the most successful heavyweight title runs in UFC history. Plus he's a big draw and a big name opponent for JDS. This
And looking at the landscape in the division right now
This isn't SF, you don't give guys coming off losses Title shots when there actually is better opponents.
Total double standard. And given that the UFC didn't get into the MMA business a couple years ago, and claims itself the holy grail of MMA, one would think they would set a higher bar then SF.
Not a double standard at all, SF had multiple other options, the UFC does, but Cain hurt, Carwin hurt, Nelson limbo. That leaves JDS vs Brock or Mir for an interim Title Those are 5 top 10 HWs, with only 2 options for a matchup becasue of injuries. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:19 pm | |
| Lol message boards blowing up with JDS vs Couture for the interim belt | |
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LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:24 pm | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:30 pm | |
| Carwin will be back by may at the latest | |
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Primetyme199 Brown Belt
Posts : 2916 Join date : 2009-07-30 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:46 pm | |
| Not sure if Brock would want this fight. Does he want to be in there with someone that has good stand-up like JDS?
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LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:50 pm | |
| No, but could JDS stop the shot? we've never seen him on the ground. | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:03 pm | |
| How about Brock vs. JDS or Brock vs. Mir or JDS vs. Mir without an interim belt? | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:14 pm | |
| Brock vs JDS anytime for a belt or not makes me very happy!!!! | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:37 pm | |
| 4 fighter tourney to decide an interim belt holder. This would be sweet.
Come on UFC, stand your ground as the pinnacle of the MMA universe. do not force feed yet another undeserved titlle fight to a former(?) WWE fighter just for the sake of ratings.
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:32 pm | |
| Doesnt matter that former WWE star will just win the tourney. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:34 pm | |
| - timthebim wrote:
- Doesnt matter that former WWE star will just win the tourney.
well at least then he would have earned it. Just giving a guy with 5 career wins a title fight coming off an embarrassing loss is a rinky dink move. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:36 pm | |
| - captain organic wrote:
- 4 fighter tourney to decide an interim belt holder. This would be sweet.
Come on UFC, stand your ground as the pinnacle of the MMA universe. do not force feed yet another undeserved titlle fight to a former(?) WWE fighter just for the sake of ratings.
He's in the top 10, was the last man to have the title and defended it 2x. If they were to make an interim title fight with JDS, there is absolutely no one that would have a bigger claim to the opposite spot than Brock at this point to go along with him being the biggest draw | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:37 pm | |
| I agree and I am a Brock fan, but i think if he and JDS fought and Brock won he would deserve to be an interim champ then as if JDS won against Brock. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:39 pm | |
| Cpt, if they made an interim title who would you put in there against JDS? | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:41 pm | |
| Is there any1 else besides Brock?? | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:43 pm | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- 4 fighter tourney to decide an interim belt holder. This would be sweet.
Come on UFC, stand your ground as the pinnacle of the MMA universe. do not force feed yet another undeserved titlle fight to a former(?) WWE fighter just for the sake of ratings.
He's in the top 10, was the last man to have the title and defended it 2x. If they were to make an interim title fight with JDS, there is absolutely no one that would have a bigger claim to the opposite spot than Brock at this point to go along with him being the biggest draw Mir is top 10, is 1-1 with Brock, has a better career winning %, has a better career winning % in the UFC, has nearly 3 times as many career wins, and does have 3 times as many wins within the UFC. And he is not coming off a loss. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:46 pm | |
| No but he has been KOed in like 2 of his last 4 fights. | |
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captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:48 pm | |
| 4 fighter tourney.
The 3 are obvious. Can they wait on Carwin? | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:48 pm | |
| - captain organic wrote:
- bobbitt15 wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- 4 fighter tourney to decide an interim belt holder. This would be sweet.
Come on UFC, stand your ground as the pinnacle of the MMA universe. do not force feed yet another undeserved titlle fight to a former(?) WWE fighter just for the sake of ratings.
He's in the top 10, was the last man to have the title and defended it 2x. If they were to make an interim title fight with JDS, there is absolutely no one that would have a bigger claim to the opposite spot than Brock at this point to go along with him being the biggest draw Mir is top 10, is 1-1 with Brock, has a better career winning %, has a better career winning % in the UFC, has nearly 3 times as many career wins, and does have 3 times as many wins within the UFC. And he is not coming off a loss.
But he did get his brains scrambled by Brock and Carwin and put on one of the worst main events in UFC history. And realistically despite the experience, he has essentially nothing to offer JDS | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:49 pm | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- bobbitt15 wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- 4 fighter tourney to decide an interim belt holder. This would be sweet.
Come on UFC, stand your ground as the pinnacle of the MMA universe. do not force feed yet another undeserved titlle fight to a former(?) WWE fighter just for the sake of ratings.
He's in the top 10, was the last man to have the title and defended it 2x. If they were to make an interim title fight with JDS, there is absolutely no one that would have a bigger claim to the opposite spot than Brock at this point to go along with him being the biggest draw Mir is top 10, is 1-1 with Brock, has a better career winning %, has a better career winning % in the UFC, has nearly 3 times as many career wins, and does have 3 times as many wins within the UFC. And he is not coming off a loss.
But he did get his brains scrambled by Brock and Carwin and put on one of the worst main events in UFC history. And realistically despite the experience, he has essentially nothing to offer JDS Brock either at this point. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:52 pm | |
| - timthebim wrote:
- bobbitt15 wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- bobbitt15 wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- 4 fighter tourney to decide an interim belt holder. This would be sweet.
Come on UFC, stand your ground as the pinnacle of the MMA universe. do not force feed yet another undeserved titlle fight to a former(?) WWE fighter just for the sake of ratings.
He's in the top 10, was the last man to have the title and defended it 2x. If they were to make an interim title fight with JDS, there is absolutely no one that would have a bigger claim to the opposite spot than Brock at this point to go along with him being the biggest draw Mir is top 10, is 1-1 with Brock, has a better career winning %, has a better career winning % in the UFC, has nearly 3 times as many career wins, and does have 3 times as many wins within the UFC. And he is not coming off a loss.
But he did get his brains scrambled by Brock and Carwin and put on one of the worst main events in UFC history. And realistically despite the experience, he has essentially nothing to offer JDS Brock either at this point. ? Brock has size and wrestling that JDS has never seen before. Just because Nelson's fat ass couldn't get him down after having his head beat in doesn't mean Brock couldn't take him down and keep him there Mir has terrible wrestling and would just be a punching dummy until it ended at some point | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: Injured Shoulder Sidelines Velasquez Until Summer Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:53 pm | |
| - bobbitt15 wrote:
- timthebim wrote:
- bobbitt15 wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- bobbitt15 wrote:
- captain organic wrote:
- 4 fighter tourney to decide an interim belt holder. This would be sweet.
Come on UFC, stand your ground as the pinnacle of the MMA universe. do not force feed yet another undeserved titlle fight to a former(?) WWE fighter just for the sake of ratings.
He's in the top 10, was the last man to have the title and defended it 2x. If they were to make an interim title fight with JDS, there is absolutely no one that would have a bigger claim to the opposite spot than Brock at this point to go along with him being the biggest draw Mir is top 10, is 1-1 with Brock, has a better career winning %, has a better career winning % in the UFC, has nearly 3 times as many career wins, and does have 3 times as many wins within the UFC. And he is not coming off a loss.
But he did get his brains scrambled by Brock and Carwin and put on one of the worst main events in UFC history. And realistically despite the experience, he has essentially nothing to offer JDS Brock either at this point. ?
Brock has size and wrestling that JDS has never seen before. Just because Nelson's fat ass couldn't get him down after having his head beat in doesn't mean Brock couldn't take him down and keep him there
Mir has terrible wrestling and would just be a punching dummy until it ended at some point No I meant Mir has nothing to offer Brock either. | |
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