Yeah I really did watch all of it, if it's good and my pops isn't in the office, I'm watchin it!
Get back to work son, I'm sick of you slacking off at work!
MMAEYES Black Belt
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:33 pm
Just like in a min I'm gonna watch that kickboxing match Huck put up lol
As for the justs of what was on Oggy's video, it was good because it actually gave new(atleast to me) evidence that suggests we haven't been told the truth about 9-11.
- they interviewed a guy who says he heard on official radio that the pentagon was hit by a missle not airplane
- interviewed a lady who worked in the pentagon and was in the pentagon while it was attacked near the point of impact that says she walked out of the hole that was left on the side of the pentagon and saw no evidence that a plane cause it.
- Interview a Nasa guy who said there is no way a plane caused the damage
- they talk about a peice of an testimony from a guy that was in the underground bunker under the whitehouse with Dick, that was completely taken and stricken from the record that the VP was getting updates from someone telling the VP that the plane was 60 miles away, 30 miles away, and when they came and said it was 10 miles away they asked Dick IF THE ORDER STILL STANDS. Dick said yes.
-and Jesse interviews a lady from the 9-11 commission and asks her why all the videos from all over the pentagon that could prove that a plane hit the pentagon were all taken.
bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:53 pm
We really have to debunk a Jesse Ventura theory? He's off his rocker
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:00 pm
have no idea what this is saying cliff notes Oggs?
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:44 am
A missile or small jet with explosives hit the Pentagon on 911. I believe it could've happened. I have seen alot more evidence on this. Jesse only came with half the facts and a few new ones.
oggy420 Bronze Belt
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:52 am
bobbitt15 wrote:
We really have to debunk a Jesse Ventura theory? He's off his rocker
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Why is that? Because he has different beliefs and opinions than you? Say what you want, but Jesse is a true American Patriot. This season of the show has been a huge hit, and the Government is not happy that it is being broadcast on cable tv. They have already completely blacked out one episode, called Police State, which covered Fema Camps and Fusion centers. If the show is so stupid and pointless, why are they trying to prevent episodes from being shown on TV?
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Subject: act Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:37 am
Cu Bua wrote:
have no idea what this is saying cliff notes Oggs?
CuBua i would really suggest watching the whole thing. It is not crazy conspiracy theory here. There is pretty significant evidence that pokes a couple holes if the official story of the Pentagon attack.
MMAEYES broke it down pretty well but there is even more too it. We also have a member of the 911 commission slipping up on national tv saying a missile hit the pentagon but quickly corrects himself and says airplane
also, is it also just a coincidence that the Financial part of the building was directly impacted, and day after Rumsfeld has a press conference announcing that the Pentagon can not account for 2.3 trillion dollars in expenses?
We also have professional pilots and ex-air force speaking out saying that there is no possible way for someone to fly a plane that big, going 500 knots, into such a low target and the angle they took is literally impossible for expert pilots, let alone someone who could barely get a small engine airplane in the air.
Then of course we have the fact that the pentagon, which had over 85 working security cameras working on that day, will not release any video that actually shows a plane crashing into the Pentagon. It took 5 years of court cases to get them to release a 5 frame shot that only shows the massive explosion. Why won't they let us see the videos? That would debunk everything right there. And they even confiscated all security videos of near by businesses that also could have shown what hit the pentagon. They have also confiscated the black boxes but apparently the indestructible box somehow failed and the voice recorders were not retrievable...(just like somehow all 4 boxes were missing from the Towers even though we have eye witness testimony of clean up workers saying they found them and were taken by the FBI).
The best part to me is when he meets a member of the 911 commission report council. This part is definitely worth watching so please do!
oggy420 Bronze Belt
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:10 am
911 commission member :
"At the end of the day, it's about protecting the institution".
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:28 am
Now that is a breakdown lol keep up the good work oggy. I don't draw any other conclusions other than that we haven't been told the truth.
bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:03 am
oggy420 wrote:
bobbitt15 wrote:
We really have to debunk a Jesse Ventura theory? He's off his rocker
d
Why is that? Because he has different beliefs and opinions than you? Say what you want, but Jesse is a true American Patriot. This season of the show has been a huge hit, and the Government is not happy that it is being broadcast on cable tv. They have already completely blacked out one episode, called Police State, which covered Fema Camps and Fusion centers. If the show is so stupid and pointless, why are they trying to prevent episodes from being shown on TV?
Yeah that's exactly why. But I'm just a sheep who gets spoonfed by the government. Lol
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:33 am
It's always important, or interesting I guess, to ask questions, especially when there is an array of conflicting answers to sort through.
bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:10 am
No doubt, some of this shit makes me laugh though. Especially coming from someone like Jesse Ventura who literally has a conspiracy theory for every day of the week dating back about 30 years. He's the picture definition of a tin heat wearer
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:30 pm
bobbitt15 wrote:
No doubt, some of this shit makes me laugh though. Especially coming from someone like Jesse Ventura who literally has a conspiracy theory for every day of the week dating back about 30 years. He's the picture definition of a tin heat wearer
Some of this makes you laugh? What is funny about covering up the murder of over 3,000 people?
You don't have to believe all conspiracy theories to realize that there is truth to some of them. 911 is a cover up and if you watch that episode you can see actual evidence to back that up. But honestly, you are not a free enough thinker to see past the lies and cover up's. It is a reality that some people in this country have been propagandized to the point of no return. Feel free to continue sleep walking through life.
bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:54 pm
Baaaahhh
Feel free to believe whatever you want, its just a huge pet peeve of mine when college aged kids try to act like they have the answer to everything. Especially when they pretend that they're enlightened and everyone else is retarded for not believing what they do
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:05 pm
at least you know what you are
oggy420 Bronze Belt
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:08 pm
and it's not college kids. It's police officers, firefighters, rescue workers, family members of the victims on 9-11 that i am supporting. People who wen't down there to help breathed in toxic dust because the EPA told them it was safe to breathe. Now they are all dying and we wont even give them health care benefits. That is despicable to me.
oggy420 Bronze Belt
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:12 pm
and im not saying i have the answers. I am saying i have questions. Questions that our leaders to this day refuse to answer.
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:21 pm
So the nations highest ranked officials should be taking time out just to answer the questions you have, or that some other wacky truther has? How do you know these questions haven't been answered already or even need to be answered if your only viewing things from one side of the fence?
Cue the "your just one of those 'sheeple' that follows the government like a dog and his master" tirade.
oggy420 Bronze Belt
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Subject: Re: Debunk This Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:02 pm
yea they should be. There are too many unanswered questions, and questions that aren't even addressed in the 9/11 commission report.
And im sure the victims of 911 family members would take offense to you calling them wacky truthers.
Also, i've yet to see anyone of you opposing my opinion give any credible info that disproves anything in that episode.