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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:54 pm | |
| they were expecting to beat the record for largest crowd for an in door fight.
Ali vs Spinks 2 had 63,000 +
Margarito vs Pac had just over 40,000
wow it wasnt even close | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:02 pm | |
| Who is they? And how many people came to Pac-Clottey?
Sounds like it may have just been a Mosley-Mayweather PPV-buyesque silly prediction when that one douche was predicting like 3 million buys or something stupid | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:04 pm | |
| Pac vs Clottey had 60,000 +
ESPN, Jerry, Bob Arum, and the boxing world was expecting 65,000 + | |
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Ziggy116 Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Rampage, Fedor, Gangster brothers, Aldo Posts : 3288 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 43 Location : Cedar Rapids
| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:21 pm | |
| Wow, by looking at the arena I thought it would be a bigger number than that. | |
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nano212 Yellow Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:40 pm | |
| At Pac vs Clottey there were over 51K, at Pac vs Margo it was 41K. Arum said they didn't sell Plaza tickets like the Clottey Fight so that may have stunted the ticket sales. Any how 41K plus all the coverage the fight got IT WAS NOT A Failure! IMO | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:09 pm | |
| LOL@ trying to call a Cubs game sellout worth of fans a failure at the box office. You work for Don King or something home boy? | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:11 pm | |
| As much good as you can say about the win for Manny Pacquiao last night, there are no doubt some frowns on the business side of things coming out of the performance, at least for now. We'll see how pay-per-view figures stack up, but ESPN.com's Dan Rafael reported last night that the attendance at Cowboys Stadium was a "mere" 41,734 -- less than what Pacquiao did against the far lesser-known Joshua Clottey in March at the same building, and much, much less than the 70,000 they were talking up before this fight. http://www.badlefthook.com/2010/11/14/1813681/pacquiao-margarito-far-below-attendance-expectations-at-cowboys | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:12 pm | |
| ya they only missed their mark by 30 fucking thousand
come on guys wake up that aint good
41,000 is a very big crowd, but this might say something, particularly about Antonio Margarito and the matchup in general. We got a good fight last night, but maybe this replacement for Floyd Mayweather Jr. just wasn't up to snuff for most fans, and maybe Margarito doesn't have the mass backing that they thought he still had from the Mexican audience. This fight went to Texas because they thought they could do a huge gate by bringing in that audience and the Pacquiao fans for one big event. Doesn't look like that happened. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:13 pm | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:17 pm | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:17 pm | |
| LOL at someone coming up 30,000 short and yall not realizing thats a failure
anyone hiring? | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:22 pm | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:54 pm | |
| Lower than expectations doesn't equal a "huge" failure.
We shouldn't get too caught up in bird's misunderstanding of the concepts.
Jerry and them aint counting as much money as they thought they would be but Jerry they still haven't finished putting rubber bands around stacks of bills. Anyone really claiming 70 k was the expectation was full of shit. I am sure the expectations were more realistic. | |
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Ziggy116 Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:08 pm | |
| I wonder, in comparison, what the UFC would do if Dana put a monster card together and did it there. I would think it could definitely compete. | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:11 pm | |
| The biggest attendance the UFC has ever had in the US is 19k. If they put together a monster card, I think they could do around 30k maybe but I'm talking about a seriously loaded card | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:15 pm | |
| Lesnar in Jerryland vs Cain in a rematch, provided Lesnar beats someone's ass between then and now is a no-brainer. Miguel vs hopefully Urijah as a co-main event.
That would compete. Lots of Mexican Americans would show up if two fighters of Mexican decent were fighting, especially against that kind of Arena friendly competition. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:24 pm | |
| Arum, Koncz, and Jerry all say they excpect to break the record, wolf i think you just dont like to admit your wrong
go look at how much back tracking you do | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:33 pm | |
| - Birdofthad wrote:
- Arum, Koncz, and Jerry all say they excpect to break the record, wolf i think you just dont like to admit your wrong
go look at how much back tracking you do I have no issue admitting being wrong, but today you're being a fruitcake looking for drama. The closest thing I was wrong about was not realizing Square Ring promoted a club show MMA event that no one had ever heard of. Just cut to the chase and say "suck it wolf, you fucking fag" if you want me to beat you for whatever sexual pleasure you derive from it. 40k fans to a combat sports event isn't a "huge failure" in any universe. You're having issues grasping macro concepts, and with the definitions of the terms "huge failure" and "back tracking". Stick to homo-erotic nostalgic waxing about Ken Shamrock's oily skin and how your album is gonna change the rap game, k? | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:42 pm | |
| how is being off by 30,000 not a failure? | |
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Ziggy116 Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:16 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Lesnar in Jerryland vs Cain in a rematch, provided Lesnar beats someone's ass between then and now is a no-brainer. Miguel vs hopefully Urijah as a co-main event.
That would compete. Lots of Mexican Americans would show up if two fighters of Mexican decent were fighting, especially against that kind of Arena friendly competition. That's pretty much what I was thinking. At least 2 title and 2 #1 contender fights and I think it would beat that number. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:26 pm | |
| I dont think Jerry would do it honestly | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:29 pm | |
| - Birdofthad wrote:
- how is being off by 30,000 not a failure?
70k was babble. They were off by 10k. They would have been happy with the same attendance and it was foolish to expect more. 40k for a boxing fight in 2010 is not a failure, no matter how you try and spin it. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:30 pm | |
| - Birdofthad wrote:
- I dont think Jerry would do it honestly
Why | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:33 pm | |
| hes a good ol boy who is a boxing fan and has even promoted stuff a fight in the 80s , friends with Arum I think thats why these fights have been getting made. Dont see Jerry and Dana coexisting
Im happy we had a 40,000 person fight but damn near everyone thought this was gonna get atleast 60,000 buys, Jerry aint getting paid of the PPV, I doubt he is very happy wtih the results of last night | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Pacquiao vs Margarito Huge Failure at Box Office Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:50 pm | |
| The event still made money hand over fist. Don't know why he wouldn't be happy with a nonfootball crowd of 40k | |
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