| Not everyone is blinded by the hype. | |
|
+7bobbitt15 josh200612 Wolfgangsta acccardinal12 chorky777 timthebim captain organic 11 posters |
|
Author | Message |
---|
captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:27 pm | |
| Brock Sapp, Meet Bob Lesnar http://themmahaus.blogspot.com/2010/...ob-lesnar.html Anyone who was hoping that the fantasies of “Brock the Warrior” would disperse after his public flogging by Cain Velasquez have been sadly mistaken. Still he is ranked among the top five by the bought and paid for media, and still the forums are abuzz with fan boy love. Sure, a certain segment has turned on their former crush in favor of the new passing flavor de jour, but it was only a short time ago that these fair-weather flaksters were pushing Brock as an unstoppable force to be feared. And extending beyond the fan base into the realm of the influential media, there were even a special few “professionals” who have been claiming Brock a beast since his debut against Min-Soo Kim... Josh Gross: “You can see just by the way he controlled Kim from mount, the power he brought, that he is a special kind of fighter, one that heavyweight MMA really hasn’t seen before.” Those were the fanboyish words of then Sherdog editor-in-chief Josh Gross after Lesnar‘s first fight, and I’d wager he now feels a fool for having said them. Unlike Josh Gross, truly knowledgeable enthusiasts of the sport have been shouting their faces blue about Brock the paper tiger ever since he first disgraced MMA with his presence. But leave it to the throngs of morons that make up MMA’s current fan base to jock this novelty act non-fighter. Like real sheepish *****s they accept whatever is jammed into their throats by their pimp-daddy Zuffa. Brock Lesnar is a phony, a white Bob Sapp. They both come from a pro-wrestling background which enables them to play up the extracurricular theatrics to draw the attention of the casual couch dwellers which account for the majority of Zuffa’s pay-per-view buys. They both have experience as NFL linemen, giving them that meat-headed muscle freak body type which the closet-case TUF crowd cream their shorts over, ignorantly thinking that’s what a fighter looks like. And finally, they both take punches about as well as a blind folded puppy dog, twirling and flailing the moment an ounce of heat is put on them. Visit any gym during novice hours and you’ll see beginners with more fight composure than what they show when put under pressure. There would be no issue if Brock would just go away and stop embarrassing the sport, hopefully taking the entire WWE crowd with him. This isn’t the case though as he is still ranked as an elite fighter on the lists of hack media outlets such as Sherdog and MMA Weekly, even as high as #2 in the case of the former. Brock deserves laughter, mockery, and contempt, not praise and glory he’s done nothing to earn. The truth is that the self-proclaimed big dogs of the MMA media have sunk to the swampy depths of shillery, and upon delving into such muddied waters there is no return, as green greed quickly asphyxiates journalistic integrity. And so it is, if the masses of uninformed fans cry out for more Brock, the media skunks will gleefully comply, pumping in more smoke and placing more mirrors, prolonging the illusion that is Brock Lesnar. After all, an ignorant fan’s money is just as green as an informed one‘s, and he’s a lot more willing to part with it. | |
|
| |
Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:31 pm | |
| That was a bit harsh. He did beat Couture, Mir and Carwin. He deserves to be in the top 5. |
|
| |
timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:35 pm | |
| Another 1 of these threads captain???? | |
|
| |
captain organic Bronze Belt
Posts : 7730 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:41 pm | |
| - timthebim wrote:
- Another 1 of these threads captain????
ha, sure why not? not much else going on. | |
|
| |
chorky777 Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Weidman, McGregor, Pettis, Cowboy Posts : 1222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Dayton, OH
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:43 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- That was a bit harsh. He did beat Couture, Mir and Carwin. He deserves to be in the top 5.
Agreed. And I wasn't even close to in the camp of people who thought he was unbeatable. The fact is, his recent resume is about as good as anyone else's. Werdum, dos Santos, and obviously Velasquez are the only guys I can see that could be legitimately ranked higher based on recent accomplishments. And that's even including having a year off because of injury. He's a guy who fights elite competition fairly often. That's more than can be said about two of the three top guys in Strikeforce. | |
|
| |
Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:46 pm | |
| Brock's lowest ranked opponent is Heath Hearing who was a tough guy. Cain and JDS started off fighting bums to gain a rep so you have to respect Brock for that. |
|
| |
acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:53 pm | |
| This dude is an idiot. Brock would kill Sapp in a fight, and he is a top fighter in the HW division. He needs some work and if he dedicates himself he can get that title back. | |
|
| |
Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:01 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- Brock's lowest ranked opponent is Heath Hearing who was a tough guy. Cain and JDS started off fighting bums to gain a rep so you have to respect Brock for that.
Kim? | |
|
| |
Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:11 pm | |
| I don't include Kim fights as fights. Lol. You know what I was trying to say anyway. |
|
| |
acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:15 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- Brock's lowest ranked opponent is Heath Hearing who was a tough guy. Cain and JDS started off fighting bums to gain a rep so you have to respect Brock for that.
Kim? First fight so what? Look at who Brock fought after he beat Kim. | |
|
| |
Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:16 pm | |
| chat in the room BBC.
I'd like to see Brock beat HMC in his debut.
Last edited by Wolfgangsta on Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:20 pm; edited 1 time in total | |
|
| |
josh200612 Silver Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Rashad Evans #1!,Rampage,GSP,Couture,Chael Sonnen,BJ Penn,Robbie Lawler,King MO,Frank Mir Posts : 8931 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 39 Location : Charlotte , North Carolina
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:17 pm | |
| | |
|
| |
bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:23 pm | |
| | |
|
| |
Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:24 pm | |
| bobbitt still blinded by the hype. Bobbitt have you seriously evaluated him as a fighter? How much of this is deliberate fanboyism? | |
|
| |
bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:27 pm | |
| That was the 2nd "article" posted in a week about him that has just been downright retarded. Its hard to make it all the way through without laughing | |
|
| |
Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:42 pm | |
| Ya that article does sound like hate. I'm ok with it. | |
|
| |
KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:17 am | |
| I never thought Lesnar was going to be this unbeatable monster, and i was amazed how many fans were picking him against Cain. That said, this article is really really pushing it. | |
|
| |
throwdownfight1 Blue Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Matt Hughes,Tito Ortiz,Frank Mir Posts : 875 Join date : 2010-10-29 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:25 am | |
| article is a joke. those that believe brock doesnt belong in the top 5 or isnt a legit top hw as as silly as those who believe he is still #1 | |
|
| |
Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:28 am | |
| He is not a top five guy. Does anyone thing he'd actually beat someone like Antonio Silva? | |
|
| |
throwdownfight1 Blue Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Matt Hughes,Tito Ortiz,Frank Mir Posts : 875 Join date : 2010-10-29 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:35 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- He is not a top five guy. Does anyone thing he'd actually beat someone like Antonio Silva?
i do, antonio looked like crap against ricco on the ground, didnt have any power against aa who has a glass chin and looked off against werdum. those are bigfoots 3 biggest fights and it was nothing impressive against guys at the bottom of the top 10 at the time. not only that he needs roids in order to compete. brock takes him down and i wouldnt be surprised if he was to stop him in the 1st for brock would be big foots tougest challenge to date. | |
|
| |
bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:36 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- He is not a top five guy. Does anyone thing he'd actually beat someone like Antonio Silva?
I'm sure plenty of people would pick Brock in that, haters and fans alike | |
|
| |
Ludo Bronze Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Prodigy, The Great, Viking Dahmer, The Phenom Posts : 6474 Join date : 2009-09-12
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:19 am | |
| - throwdownfight1 wrote:
- Wolfgangsta wrote:
- He is not a top five guy. Does anyone thing he'd actually beat someone like Antonio Silva?
i do, antonio looked like crap against ricco on the ground, didnt have any power against aa who has a glass chin and looked off against werdum. those are bigfoots 3 biggest fights and it was nothing impressive against guys at the bottom of the top 10 at the time. not only that he needs roids in order to compete. brock takes him down and i wouldnt be surprised if he was to stop him in the 1st for brock would be big foots tougest challenge to date. Really? Getting knocked out by Fedor Emelienanko and Brett Rogers gives one a glass chin? Take this shit back to sherdog, dude. | |
|
| |
throwdownfight1 Blue Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Matt Hughes,Tito Ortiz,Frank Mir Posts : 875 Join date : 2010-10-29 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:30 pm | |
| no getting ko'd by just fedor and rogers doesnt qualify him as havin a glass chin. Having gotten stopped multiple times in fights prior to those by a single blow does. Dont get me wrong, aa is a well rounded fighter however he has been the most overrated champ in the division. his biggest win and only win over a top 10 hw was over timmy whom in return beat him twice. For that aa was a good fighter but never on of the elite, his chin prevented him from winnin several big fights | |
|
| |
LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:34 pm | |
| True, Mo, Rogers, Mousasi, I'll add Gil and Cavalcante to my list, you might never find out with Gil though. | |
|
| |
Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:16 pm | |
| - LA wrote:
- True, Mo, Rogers, Mousasi, I'll add Gil and Cavalcante to my list, you might never find out with Gil though.
Good fighters you don't like because they don't fight in the UFC list? | |
|
| |
Sponsored content
| Subject: Re: Not everyone is blinded by the hype. | |
| |
|
| |
| Not everyone is blinded by the hype. | |
|