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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:15 pm | |
| Power is intriguing. There is a reason Brock is the biggest draw in the MMA world. |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:17 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- Power is intriguing. There is a reason Brock is the biggest draw in the MMA world.
Speed is more intriguing IMO, but of coarse, to each his own. | |
| | | chorky777 Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:18 pm | |
| If Henry Cejudo ever made the jump to MMA, he'd be a 125er. There are also a few Bantamweights that could probably make the drop. Joe Benavidez could make it. Plus, Jussier Formiga is awesome. I'd love to watch him in the UFC. Who would we see fight at cruiserweight besides noone? | |
| | | chorky777 Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:20 pm | |
| I also like how OU discriminated on heavyweights based on size, and then made it seem like it was terrible that Freak discriminated on the flyweights. | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:20 pm | |
| - killerofchicken wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- Power is intriguing. There is a reason Brock is the biggest draw in the MMA world.
Speed is more intriguing IMO, but of coarse, to each his own. Skill > all. Smaller guys have better technique, better cardio, better overall skill. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:21 pm | |
| - chorky777 wrote:
- I also like how OU discriminated on heavyweights based on size, and then made it seem like it was terrible that Freak discriminated on the flyweights.
How did I discriminate? I hated Brock because of the warped perception of him by the fans. | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:22 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- killerofchicken wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- Power is intriguing. There is a reason Brock is the biggest draw in the MMA world.
Speed is more intriguing IMO, but of coarse, to each his own. Skill > all. Smaller guys have better technique, better cardio, better overall skill. yup, hell you dont have to preach to me about it. the first time i watched wec my first question was, why are these guys not in the UFC? | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:23 pm | |
| Cruiserweight division would consist of-
Quinton Jackson Jon Jones Randy Couture Tito Ortiz Brandon Vera Forrest Griffin Big Nog And any heavyweight that wants to drop down |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:25 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- Cruiserweight division would consist of-
Quinton Jackson Jon Jones Randy Couture Tito Ortiz Brandon Vera Forrest Griffin Big Nog And any heavyweight that wants to drop down these dudes make 205, why on earth would they fight at a higher WC where they would get handled | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:30 pm | |
| - killerofchicken wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- Cruiserweight division would consist of-
Quinton Jackson Jon Jones Randy Couture Tito Ortiz Brandon Vera Forrest Griffin Big Nog And any heavyweight that wants to drop down these dudes make 205, why on earth would they fight at a higher WC where they would get handled Who would they get handled by? |
| | | chorky777 Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:31 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- chorky777 wrote:
- I also like how OU discriminated on heavyweights based on size, and then made it seem like it was terrible that Freak discriminated on the flyweights.
How did I discriminate? I hated Brock because of the warped perception of him by the fans. Looking back, it was Killer, my bad. I thought it was you who called them all fat, slow guys with no gas tank. | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:32 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- killerofchicken wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- Cruiserweight division would consist of-
Quinton Jackson Jon Jones Randy Couture Tito Ortiz Brandon Vera Forrest Griffin Big Nog And any heavyweight that wants to drop down these dudes make 205, why on earth would they fight at a higher WC where they would get handled Who would they get handled by? I mean strength wise, why would they move up a WC when they can make the 205... it really wouldnt make too much sense, Tito got taken down by Hamill at will, and couldnt take him down. | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:32 pm | |
| - chorky777 wrote:
- OU wrote:
- chorky777 wrote:
- I also like how OU discriminated on heavyweights based on size, and then made it seem like it was terrible that Freak discriminated on the flyweights.
How did I discriminate? I hated Brock because of the warped perception of him by the fans. Looking back, it was Killer, my bad. I thought it was you who called them all fat, slow guys with no gas tank. haha OK, we good. | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:33 pm | |
| - chorky777 wrote:
- OU wrote:
- chorky777 wrote:
- I also like how OU discriminated on heavyweights based on size, and then made it seem like it was terrible that Freak discriminated on the flyweights.
How did I discriminate? I hated Brock because of the warped perception of him by the fans. Looking back, it was Killer, my bad. I thought it was you who called them all fat, slow guys with no gas tank. really not discriminating... just stating facts lol | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:34 pm | |
| Brock, Carwin, Cain, JDS, Mir, Big Nog and Shaub are fat? |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:36 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- Brock, Carwin, Cain, JDS, Mir, Big Nog and Shaub are fat?
no not all HWs are fat and have no gas tank, sheesh | |
| | | chorky777 Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:40 pm | |
| We'd be looking at Cain as the Cruiserweight champ as well as the Heavyweight champ. | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:41 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- Brock, Carwin, Cain, JDS, Mir, Big Nog and Shaub are fat?
What about Kongo, Struve, CC, Reem and Gonzaga? | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:42 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- Brock, Carwin, Cain, JDS, Mir, Big Nog and Shaub are fat?
What about Kongo, Struve, CC, Reem and Gonzaga? Gonzaga looked huge last fight, and not fat huge neither... wtf is his deal, why wont he use his BJJ | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:44 pm | |
| The main guys are not fat so your argument fails. |
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:45 pm | |
| - chorky777 wrote:
- We'd be looking at Cain as the Cruiserweight champ as well as the Heavyweight champ.
Cain weighs 244. The Cruiserweight limit would be 220. He won't make it. |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:45 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- The main guys are not fat so your argument fails.
umm you're argument already failed, THEYRE ONLY FAST CUZ THEYRE SMALL!!!! | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:45 pm | |
| - killerofchicken wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- The main guys are not fat so your argument fails.
umm you're argument already failed, THEYRE ONLY FAST CUZ THEYRE SMALL!!!! That is true. The higher the weight class the slower they are. |
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:57 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- chorky777 wrote:
- We'd be looking at Cain as the Cruiserweight champ as well as the Heavyweight champ.
Cain weighs 244. The Cruiserweight limit would be 220. He won't make it. That's not even ten percent of his body weight. He'd absolutely make it. Remember, the bigger you get, the easier it is to cut more weight. | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:59 pm | |
| - freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- killerofchicken wrote:
- freakzilla316ftw wrote:
- The main guys are not fat so your argument fails.
umm you're argument already failed, THEYRE ONLY FAST CUZ THEYRE SMALL!!!! That is true. The higher the weight class the slower they are. thats common knowledge, what are your reasons for not liking the smaller guys? | |
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