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PostSubject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed?   UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? - Page 2 EmptyFri Oct 29, 2010 12:15 pm

Power is intriguing. There is a reason Brock is the biggest draw in the MMA world.
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freakzilla316ftw wrote:
Power is intriguing. There is a reason Brock is the biggest draw in the MMA world.
Speed is more intriguing IMO, but of coarse, to each his own.
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If Henry Cejudo ever made the jump to MMA, he'd be a 125er. There are also a few Bantamweights that could probably make the drop. Joe Benavidez could make it. Plus, Jussier Formiga is awesome. I'd love to watch him in the UFC. Who would we see fight at cruiserweight besides noone?
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I also like how OU discriminated on heavyweights based on size, and then made it seem like it was terrible that Freak discriminated on the flyweights.
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freakzilla316ftw wrote:
Power is intriguing. There is a reason Brock is the biggest draw in the MMA world.
Speed is more intriguing IMO, but of coarse, to each his own.

Skill > all. Smaller guys have better technique, better cardio, better overall skill.
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I also like how OU discriminated on heavyweights based on size, and then made it seem like it was terrible that Freak discriminated on the flyweights.

How did I discriminate? I hated Brock because of the warped perception of him by the fans.
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OU wrote:
killerofchicken wrote:
freakzilla316ftw wrote:
Power is intriguing. There is a reason Brock is the biggest draw in the MMA world.
Speed is more intriguing IMO, but of coarse, to each his own.

Skill > all. Smaller guys have better technique, better cardio, better overall skill.
yup, hell you dont have to preach to me about it. the first time i watched wec my first question was, why are these guys not in the UFC?
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PostSubject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed?   UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? - Page 2 EmptyFri Oct 29, 2010 12:23 pm

Cruiserweight division would consist of-

Quinton Jackson
Jon Jones
Randy Couture
Tito Ortiz
Brandon Vera
Forrest Griffin
Big Nog
And any heavyweight that wants to drop down
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freakzilla316ftw wrote:
Cruiserweight division would consist of-

Quinton Jackson
Jon Jones
Randy Couture
Tito Ortiz
Brandon Vera
Forrest Griffin
Big Nog
And any heavyweight that wants to drop down
these dudes make 205, why on earth would they fight at a higher WC where they would get handled
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PostSubject: Re: UFC, WEC Merge… Needed?   UFC, WEC Merge… Needed? - Page 2 EmptyFri Oct 29, 2010 12:30 pm

killerofchicken wrote:
freakzilla316ftw wrote:
Cruiserweight division would consist of-

Quinton Jackson
Jon Jones
Randy Couture
Tito Ortiz
Brandon Vera
Forrest Griffin
Big Nog
And any heavyweight that wants to drop down
these dudes make 205, why on earth would they fight at a higher WC where they would get handled

Who would they get handled by?
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OU wrote:
chorky777 wrote:
I also like how OU discriminated on heavyweights based on size, and then made it seem like it was terrible that Freak discriminated on the flyweights.

How did I discriminate? I hated Brock because of the warped perception of him by the fans.

Looking back, it was Killer, my bad. I thought it was you who called them all fat, slow guys with no gas tank.
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freakzilla316ftw wrote:
killerofchicken wrote:
freakzilla316ftw wrote:
Cruiserweight division would consist of-

Quinton Jackson
Jon Jones
Randy Couture
Tito Ortiz
Brandon Vera
Forrest Griffin
Big Nog
And any heavyweight that wants to drop down
these dudes make 205, why on earth would they fight at a higher WC where they would get handled

Who would they get handled by?
I mean strength wise, why would they move up a WC when they can make the 205... it really wouldnt make too much sense, Tito got taken down by Hamill at will, and couldnt take him down.
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I also like how OU discriminated on heavyweights based on size, and then made it seem like it was terrible that Freak discriminated on the flyweights.

How did I discriminate? I hated Brock because of the warped perception of him by the fans.

Looking back, it was Killer, my bad. I thought it was you who called them all fat, slow guys with no gas tank.

haha OK, we good.
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OU wrote:
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I also like how OU discriminated on heavyweights based on size, and then made it seem like it was terrible that Freak discriminated on the flyweights.

How did I discriminate? I hated Brock because of the warped perception of him by the fans.

Looking back, it was Killer, my bad. I thought it was you who called them all fat, slow guys with no gas tank.
really not discriminating... just stating facts lol
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Brock, Carwin, Cain, JDS, Mir, Big Nog and Shaub are fat?
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freakzilla316ftw wrote:
Brock, Carwin, Cain, JDS, Mir, Big Nog and Shaub are fat?
no not all HWs are fat and have no gas tank, sheesh
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We'd be looking at Cain as the Cruiserweight champ as well as the Heavyweight champ.
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Brock, Carwin, Cain, JDS, Mir, Big Nog and Shaub are fat?

What about Kongo, Struve, CC, Reem and Gonzaga?
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OU wrote:
freakzilla316ftw wrote:
Brock, Carwin, Cain, JDS, Mir, Big Nog and Shaub are fat?

What about Kongo, Struve, CC, Reem and Gonzaga?
Gonzaga looked huge last fight, and not fat huge neither... wtf is his deal, why wont he use his BJJ
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The main guys are not fat so your argument fails.
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chorky777 wrote:
We'd be looking at Cain as the Cruiserweight champ as well as the Heavyweight champ.

Cain weighs 244. The Cruiserweight limit would be 220. He won't make it.
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The main guys are not fat so your argument fails.
umm you're argument already failed, THEYRE ONLY FAST CUZ THEYRE SMALL!!!!
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killerofchicken wrote:
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The main guys are not fat so your argument fails.
umm you're argument already failed, THEYRE ONLY FAST CUZ THEYRE SMALL!!!!

That is true. The higher the weight class the slower they are.
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freakzilla316ftw wrote:
chorky777 wrote:
We'd be looking at Cain as the Cruiserweight champ as well as the Heavyweight champ.

Cain weighs 244. The Cruiserweight limit would be 220. He won't make it.

That's not even ten percent of his body weight. He'd absolutely make it. Remember, the bigger you get, the easier it is to cut more weight.
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freakzilla316ftw wrote:
killerofchicken wrote:
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The main guys are not fat so your argument fails.
umm you're argument already failed, THEYRE ONLY FAST CUZ THEYRE SMALL!!!!

That is true. The higher the weight class the slower they are.
thats common knowledge, what are your reasons for not liking the smaller guys?
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