Cain on fighting Brock

http://www.mmamania.com/2010/7/9/1560926/cain-velasquez-im-used-to
[quote]"I'm in shape now, so it pretty much doesn't matter to me either. (I'm) just staying ready, and that's pretty much it, just have to find out when we fight. [Training has] been good, just getting a lot of technical stuff down, really working technique with my coaches. Trying to improve in stuff that I think I need improvement on. I think it's been good. I think I match up well. He's definitely a bigger guy and also really powerful, but I think I've trained and wrestled guys that are his size, so I'm used to competing against guys that are that big. I'm just excited for this opportunity."

Cain is way bigger. For that reason alone he wins.

GDPofDRC wrote:

Cain is way bigger. For that reason alone he wins.

I agree, size is everything. Brock "Hulk" Lesnar takes him down and pounds his face in round 1.

I'm just trippin on this fuckin photoshop here.

I think Lesnar is slightly smaller to scale in real life otherwise this is a top notch shop.

I am looking forward to this match-up. If Cain can't take him down in the first round and Lesnar paces himself well, we could have a hell of a goof fight on our hands or one that is over awfully quick.

I expect Cain to be all over Lesnar for the entire bout. If Lesnar wins it will be with a haymaker or something from outside during exchanges. I donno how likely that is, Lesnar always shys away when hit. Cain's power isn't Carwin's, but he's stopped all fighters he's faced but one. It's nothing to sneeze at.

If Lesnar's durabilty holds up we could see a protracted beating. I'm kind of hoping for that.

Cain isn't that small compared to Brock. He looks like a 205er in that pic.

I am not sold on Cain's power, Kongo and Rothwell took those shots like they were bee stings.

Again, he isn't the hardest puncher at HW, but he has finished 7 of 8 opponents and 5 in the first round. He is a volume striker and to automatically write off his ability to finish Lesnar is short sighted. It's not like Lesnar took Carwin's blows and laughed em off. He went flying across the ring and collapsed into a sack of shit under Carwin's power like any other man would, and he is lucky he survived at all. I give Lesnar a ton of props for surviving that bombardment, but the reality is Cain could still very easily finish Lesnar.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Again, he isn't the hardest puncher at HW, but he has finished 7 of 8 opponents and 5 in the first round. He is a volume striker and to automatically write off his ability to finish Lesnar is short sighted. It's not like Lesnar took Carwin's blows and laughed em off. He went flying across the ring and collapsed into a sack of shit under Carwin's power like any other man would, and he is lucky he survived at all. I give Lesnar a ton of props for surviving that bombardment, but the reality is Cain could still very easily finish Lesnar.

Brock survived what no 1 else would have. It wasnt pretty but he did survive. Cain does hit hard but nothing like Carwin so Brock wont be hit with anything he hasnt felt before. Cain has to keep it standing cause anytime Brock gets on top of some1 they havent proved they can get back up. The fight will be very good but I think Brock finds a way to get Cain on his back and GNP him either a late TKO or UD.

timthebim wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Again, he isn't the hardest puncher at HW, but he has finished 7 of 8 opponents and 5 in the first round. He is a volume striker and to automatically write off his ability to finish Lesnar is short sighted. It's not like Lesnar took Carwin's blows and laughed em off. He went flying across the ring and collapsed into a sack of shit under Carwin's power like any other man would, and he is lucky he survived at all. I give Lesnar a ton of props for surviving that bombardment, but the reality is Cain could still very easily finish Lesnar.

Brock survived what no 1 else would have. It wasnt pretty but he did survive. Cain does hit hard but nothing like Carwin so Brock wont be hit with anything he hasnt felt before. Cain has to keep it standing cause anytime Brock gets on top of some1 they havent proved they can get back up. The fight will be very good but I think Brock finds a way to get Cain on his back and GNP him either a late TKO or UD.

Randy got up twice from under him in a matter of seconds.

He was never fully on top of Randy he took Randy down and he hurried to his feet because if Brock would have gotten on him the fight would have been over quickly especially at Randys age.

Lesnar got a double leg take down into the half guard then mount, randy rolled him off slid out and stood it up. The second time Lesnar tripped randy and got in the half gaurd again and pinned Randy's arm down. Again Randy gets out and stands it up. I don't know what you consider being on top of a guy on the ground but there are some great examples from UFC 91's main event.

I would have to rewatch the fight but I seriously didnt remember Brock having full control on top on Randy like that.

GDPofDRC wrote:

Cain has all the tools to win this fight. Again, Brock has to develop a jab and use it to set-up some powerful straights, but he cannot let Cain explode like Carwin did. His punches may not be as powerful, but his combinations are more fluid. Brock has to keep the distance.

I'm not sure if either one wants to go to the mat. Cain will not be dominated by Brock on the ground. He's quicker and more technical there. Think Randy, except slightly bigger and more athletic. Going for the takedown will be a desparation move and may be a waste of energy since I expect both guys to have ridiculous sprawls. If Brock struggled to get Shane to the mat, then he will struggle even more with Cain. Meanwhile Cain may not be big enough or strong enough to take Brock down.