Will any of these former champs ever get another UFC title shot?

1. Randy Couture
2. Chuck Liddell
3. Rich Franklin
4. Big Nog
5. Matt Hughes
6. Matt Serra
7. Forrest Griffin

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

1. Randy Couture
2. Chuck Liddell
3. Rich Franklin
4. Big Nog
5. Matt Hughes
6. Matt Serra
7. Forrest Griffin

1. no, but maybe
2. no, wish I was wrong
3. no, just no
4. no
5. no but maybe.
6. no but maybe
7. maybe, probably not

I'm gonna have to say no. To all of them

With Shogun being the champion and Forrest still being a fan favorite that is the most likely.

If Serra keeps knocking fools out on the regular like that a rubber match with GSP might be possible too. Most forget they are 1-1. Serra KO's a contender and all bets are off with him.

Randy always gets title shots he doesn't deserve so that is possible also, and LHW needs contenders in a bad way.

The winner of Chuck vs Rich is in a favorable position right now, especially with Little Nog looking bad against Brilz, again the LHW division is short on contenders at this moment.

Hughes could earn a tite shot rather easily if he still wanted to compete against top guys but he has made it clear he isn't after the title anymore. Why would he be? He defended that thing 9 times. He made his point.

Big Nog is 33, if he finds himself 35 and on a 3 or 4 fight win streak in the UFC and the cycle of young contenders has ran it's course finally, never know.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

With Shogun being the champion and Forrest still being a fan favorite that is the most likely.

If Serra keeps knocking fools out on the regular like that a rubber match with GSP might be possible too. Most forget they are 1-1. Serra KO's a contender and all bets are off with him.

Randy always gets title shots he doesn't deserve so that is possible also, and LHW needs contenders in a bad way.

The winner of Chuck vs Rich is in a favorable position right now, especially with Little Nog looking bad against Brilz, again the LHW division is short on contenders at this moment.

Hughes could earn a tite shot rather easily if he still wanted to compete against top guys but he has made it clear he isn't after the title anymore. Why would he be? He defended that thing 9 times. He made his point.

Big Nog is 33, if he finds himself 35 and on a 3 or 4 fight win streak in the UFC and the cycle of young contenders has ran it's course finally, never know.

Yeah I agree, pretty much my exact thoughts as well. I'm just giving an educated guess saying Forrest won't quite make it back to another shot. I think Serra is most deserving but the UFC doesn't seem to be pushing him very fast and he isn't getting any younger. Another big win though could get him right there. Hughes is the same, a win over Almedia will still put him atleast 1 big win away. I think he falls just short.
I don't think Rich or Chuck will be able to string together the 2-3 big wins they need for the shot. Same goes for Nog. Just my opinon.

Unsure if any fan favorite at LHW needs 3 big wins. Forrest and Randy seems like something the UFC would do this fall to determine the next challenger for Shogun/Rashad.

1. Randy Couture - possible
2. Chuck Liddell - no
3. Rich Franklin - no, but maybe it could happen.
4. Big Nog - no
5. Matt Hughes - no
6. Matt Serra - no
7. Forrest Griffin - possible

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Unsure if any fan favorite at LHW needs 3 big wins. Forrest and Randy seems like something the UFC would do this fall to determine the next challenger for Shogun/Rashad.

Forrest beat Tito. Let's just assume for fun he beats lil Nog sometime this year. You would think he would need 1 more win? Is that safe to say? I just don't see him beating Rashad, Rampage, Machida, Shogun or whoever it will be standing in the way of his shot.

Forrest Griffin has a shot because he's a name and Shogun wants to avenge his previous loss to him.

Ali_1748 wrote:

Forrest Griffin has a shot because he's a name and Shogun wants to avenge his previous loss to him.

I think it is more likely that Rampage gets the first crack at revenge on Forrest. That could setup another revenge fight with the winner vs Shogun. Forrest wins Shoguns gets a chance at revenge. Rampage wins and gets a chance at back to back revenge.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

Forrest Griffin has a shot because he's a name and Shogun wants to avenge his previous loss to him.

I think it is more likely that Rampage gets the first crack at revenge on Forrest. That could setup another revenge fight with the winner vs Shogun. Forrest wins Shoguns gets a chance at revenge. Rampage wins and gets a chance at back to back revenge.

That would be cool.

If Forrest beats Rogerio, who is still a legitimate top 5 or 6 on most rankings even with the close fight against Jason Brilz, he gets an immediate rematch with Shogun. Holding the only UFC win over Shogun and wins over legends like Ortiz and Nog is all he would need. Trust.

The UFC really, really wanted that fight to go as planned on 114.

Notice they didn't make Rashad/Rampage for a title shot until after Griffin went down with an injury? There was a reason for that. The winner of that fight, especially if it was Forrest, would have been given as much consideration as Rampage.

Dana White's PPV wetdream was having both Rampage and Forrest be dominant, setting up a blockbuster series of PPV events with all their biggest LHW stars who all have history with eachother.

Good point on a Rampage-Forrest rematch. If Rashad becomes champion, Rampage needs just a single win against someone like Forrest and another blockbuster PPV, this time for the title, is generated.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

If Forrest beats Rogerio, who is still a legitimate top 5 or 6 on most rankings even with the close fight against Jason Brilz, he gets an immediate rematch with Shogun. Holding the only UFC win over Shogun and wins over legends like Ortiz and Nog is all he would need. Trust.

The UFC really, really wanted that fight to go as planned on 114.

Notice they didn't make Rashad/Rampage for a title shot until after Griffin went down with an injury? There was a reason for that. The winner of that fight, especially if it was Forrest, would have been given as much consideration as Rampage.

Dana White's PPV wetdream was having both Rampage and Forrest be dominant, setting up a blockbuster series of PPV events with all their biggest LHW stars who all have history with eachother.

I disagree, I don't think he will get a shot if he beat lil Nog. After getting embarrased by Spider, I think he would need 1 more win after Nog. You could be right, I just don't think you are in this instance.

Wolf, notice they didn't make Rashad/Rampage for the title until AFTER Machida lost. The only reason IMO that they didn't is Dana did not want Rashad vs Machida 2. I think that was the only reason for the delay.

And as a matter of fact, wouldn't it be rather easy to sell a Forrest-Rashad rematch if Rashad was champion this time? LHW is the most interesting division around.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

And as a matter of fact, wouldn't it be rather easy to sell a Forrest-Rashad rematch if Rashad was champion this time? LHW is the most interesting division around.

A Forrest vs Rampage fight setups up back to back revenge fights no matter what. Rampage gets a shot at revenge vs Forrest. Then he could get revenge on either Rashad or Shogun no matter who wins. Forrest beats Rampage and that either gives him a chance at revenge vs Rashad or gives Shogun a chance at revenge.

Hole in your theory -

Besides maybe Forrest, Rampage aint beating none of them dudes.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Hole in your theory -

Besides maybe Forrest, Rampage aint beating none of them dudes.

How is that a whole in the theory? I said they will get an attempt at revenge, not that they will accomplish it. I don't think Forrest would get revenge on Rashad either if he gets that far.

True, but remember who was owning that fight until Forrest got clipped.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

True, but remember who was owning that fight until Forrest got clipped.

I think that was part of Rashad strategy. Feel him out, frustrate him a little bit and then explode. Like he did vs Chuck. I just don't think Forrest matchups up well with Rashad. Eventually Rashad's speed and wrestling would get him the win IMO.

1. Randy Couture- I'm guessing he'll have an easy road to the title shot. Maybe one more fight after the Toney win. I'm guessing he'd lose that fight, but I'm not positive. So I'll go maybe on him.
2. Chuck Liddell- NO WAY IN HELL
3. Rich Franklin- He needs to somehow get a decent chin. Not sure that's possible, so I'll go no.
4. Big Nog- Nope. The new crop of heavyweights are just too good, too fast, and too strong for him. Not to mention, I don't know how he'd do against Nelson, Mir, or even Kongo at this point. I'm not sure he can take too many hits any more.
5. Matt Hughes- I don't think he wants a title shot. I think he just wants big fights that can please fans.
6. Matt Serra- I doubt it. He's undersized, and I just don't think he can beat the elite welters.
7. Forrest Griffin- Hmmmm.... Toughest of the bunch. He's clearly a smart fighter with the skills needed to beat a lot of light heavies, but I just can't help but think that the Anderson Silva loss will tarnish the title if he was to win it. I wouldn't be surprised if he made a nice run, but didn't get another shot for a while.

A collective NO, but you could make some great fights with the guys there

Chuck vs. Franklin (actually happening)
Hughes vs. serra rematch
Randy vs. Big Nog rematch
Forrest fights the winner of Chuck vs. Franklin

Yo the only fight I'd be remotely interested in seeing is Forrest fighting one of those other guys. Serra and Hughes II is a card killer and Randy and Big Nog in a rematch is unneeded.

I'd like to see a Hughes vs. Serra rematch, Hughes LnPed his way to victor in that one, it's not a headliner, and both guy are at about tha same place in the division

Same goes for Randy and Nog, where are they at? Randy's fighting fucking Toney and Nog is waiting for a fight, even though Dana will try and push Randy as a contender at LHW, he really isn't, be a good fight IMO.

I only give Forrest a chance