Dan Hardy or Paul Daley

Who's the better fighter?

Overall? Hardy.

Hardy

hardy but don't get me wrong daley is a beast too

push, give me one more fihgt

right know i have Hardy ranked higher

I have to agree with Hardy. He probably isn't as explosive, but I think his stand up is more crisp and has somewhat of a ground game. Daley doesn't.

I usually order every GSP and Brock PPV but i'm going to be tested if GSP-Daley is going to headline a PPV.

They both have strengths and weaknesses, but for no I will say Hardy. My vote could change after tonight though.

HARDY!

Dan Hardy has the better pain threshold, but Daley has the more explosive power. Both have incredible chins.

I like them both, but I lean towards Hardy has the better overall fighter.

I like big punchers in general but I say hardy is a step above and I believe KOS wins tonight on the feet or on the floor, whichever he chooses

I think Koscheck wins also. He'll give GSP a better challenge.

I think hardy is the better fighter ... but they would probably stand with each other if they fought .. so you never know.

They both suck on the ground and wouldnt win fights if the ww division was any good.

They are 170 pound versions of Strikeforce middleweights at best. They wouldn't win the Bellator tournament.

They are both legit, but not top guys by any means, anywhere from 7-15, Hardy is better, he got beat by GSP and he sucks all of a sudden.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

They both suck on the ground and wouldnt win fights if the ww division was any good.

GSP,KOS,Fitch,ALves,Sanchez,Rumble,Hardy,B Saunders ,Ellenberger ,hazlett, P thiago, Swick,Lytle, J paulino,Hughes,Serra,Daley,Condit,Kampmen,Kim,Almeda,yoshida,Gracie,Hallman, M davis.


that seems like some pretty tight competition in a stacked class. If GSP isnt in the division its wide open and very exciting

Cu Bua wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

They both suck on the ground and wouldnt win fights if the ww division was any good.

GSP,KOS,Fitch,ALves,Sanchez,Rumble,Hardy,B Saunders ,Ellenberger ,hazlett, P thiago, Swick,Lytle, J paulino,Hughes,Serra,Daley,Condit,Kampmen,Kim,Almeda,yoshida,Gracie,Hallman, M davis.


that seems like some pretty tight competition in a stacked class. If GSP isnt in the division its wide open and very exciting

Wide open? Fitch has taken out Alves, Thiago, Saunders, Sanchez, and Pierce. I think he'd be the clear #1 if GSP weren't around.

Farmer1906 wrote:

Cu Bua wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

They both suck on the ground and wouldnt win fights if the ww division was any good.

GSP,KOS,Fitch,ALves,Sanchez,Rumble,Hardy,B Saunders ,Ellenberger ,hazlett, P thiago, Swick,Lytle, J paulino,Hughes,Serra,Daley,Condit,Kampmen,Kim,Almeda,yoshida,Gracie,Hallman, M davis.


that seems like some pretty tight competition in a stacked class. If GSP isnt in the division its wide open and very exciting

Wide open? Fitch has taken out Alves, Thiago, Saunders, Sanchez, and Pierce. I think he'd be the clear #1 if GSP weren't around.

Well, Alves is a loooooot better now than he was when he lost to Fitch. I'd still take Fitch in that fight, but let's see it before we start annointing Fitch with any non-GSP welterweight championships.

chorky777 wrote:

Farmer1906 wrote:

Cu Bua wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

They both suck on the ground and wouldnt win fights if the ww division was any good.

GSP,KOS,Fitch,ALves,Sanchez,Rumble,Hardy,B Saunders ,Ellenberger ,hazlett, P thiago, Swick,Lytle, J paulino,Hughes,Serra,Daley,Condit,Kampmen,Kim,Almeda,yoshida,Gracie,Hallman, M davis.


that seems like some pretty tight competition in a stacked class. If GSP isnt in the division its wide open and very exciting

Wide open? Fitch has taken out Alves, Thiago, Saunders, Sanchez, and Pierce. I think he'd be the clear #1 if GSP weren't around.

Well, Alves is a loooooot better now than he was when he lost to Fitch. I'd still take Fitch in that fight, but let's see it before we start annointing Fitch with any non-GSP welterweight championships.

According to USA Today Fitch has beaten the #3, #5, #18, #25 WW & #12 LW with his only loss coming the #1 GSP. Alves has beaten #4, #9, & #24 but also has a losses to unranked Fisher & #2 Fitch along with GSP.

I think Fitch is easily higher ranked than Alves.

Ranked higher, but as far as who wins the fight it's in doubt right now due to Alves' progression. I still take Fitch to win the rematch but I think it's tougher than last time by far.

LudoCain wrote:

Ranked higher, but as far as who wins the fight it's in doubt right now due to Alves' progression. I still take Fitch to win the rematch but I think it's tougher than last time by far.

Exactly. I'd give you a big plus on your rep, but apparently I can't do that.

WW is an especially horrible division right now. When Mike Swick, a guy who would be fucking destroyed at LW, MW, LHW and every other weight class with his same skillset can sniff the top ten, you've got problems.


GSP,KOS,Fitch,ALves,Sanchez,Rumble,Hardy,B Saunders ,Ellenberger ,hazlett, P thiago, Swick,Lytle, J paulino,Hughes,Serra,Daley,Condit,Kampmen,Kim,Almeda,yoshida,Gracie,Hallman, M davis.

Bolded fighters get destroyed if they were placed inside properly sized avatar bodies to fight top UFC MWs or LWs with their skillsets. WW is weak right now. No one is well rounded, no one has elite games on the ground and on their feet besides maybe five guys. WW is the UFC's shittiest division, and a traditionally weak class. Please see; Matt Hughes holding the title defense record.

Half of WW's "top ten" are only top ten because there isn't 10 true 'top tenners'

I disagree, the bottom of the MW division is just the same

The WW division is soo deep, that's why the bottom top 10 is always switching