Who wins? Melvin vs Miller

Better late then never. Who you got?

Jim Miller

by submission round 2

I agree, Jim by sub.

ill go with melvin by KO... lets hope he learned his lesson last time out, though i feel like ive said that before about him.

Melvin. No Miller. No Melvin. No Miller. Fuckkkkkkkkkk.

Rooting for Melvin

I think Melvin can and will win this, but it is a close call for either.

This could easily go either way and I think everyone knows it. Both are explosive with the ability to change fights in one punch, both have that killer instinct. Miller has proven to be the tougher fighter mentally and more durable as well. I'm going Miller.

Miller for me. I think he gets a sub over Melvin.

As usual the brilliant brainiacs at CompuStrike
were willing and able to roll up their sleeves, get elbow deep in "MMA
Math" and then pass their elaborate findings onto you, the Maniacs.

The numbers collected have been based on 10 fight averages for Melvin Guillard and 11 fight averages for Jim Miller.

First, let's kick things off with a look at the striking game:

Total Strikes:

Guillard -- 24 of 48
Miller -- 44 of 102

Percentage:

Guillard -- 50 percent
Miller -- 43 percent

Total Power Strikes Landed:

Guillard -- 20
Miller -- 28
Total Non-Power Strikes Landed:

Guillard -- 4
Miller -- 16

Guillard looks to be more crisp and precise, but Miller holds the
edge in the power shots department. That may be a bit misleading though,
as Guillard has overwhelmingly more knockouts (19 to Miller's three).

Here's what the arm striking aspect of the overall striking comparison looks like:

Total Arm Strikes Landed:

Guillard -- 13 of 32
Miller -- 14 of 56

Percentage of Arm Strikes Landed:


Guillard -- 41 percent
Miller -- 25 percent

Power Strikes Landed:


Guillard -- 10
Miller -- 10

Non-Power Strikes Landed


Guillard -- 3
Miller -- 4

Guillard is far more accurate with his punches and elbows. He definitely gets the nod in this category.

How about those pesky kicks and knees?

Total Leg Strikes Landed:


Guillard -- 6 of 9
Miller -- 8 of 11

Percentage of Leg Strikes Landed:


Guillard -- 67 percent
Miller -- 73 percent

Power Leg Strikes Landed:


Guillard -- 5
Miller -- 6

Non-Power Leg Strikes Landed:


Guillard -- 1
Miller -- 2

Close, but Miller takes this "leg" of the race by a toenail.

Miller is a submission wizard and one of the better jiu-jitsu guys at
155 pounds. Guillard is a gamer and a scrapper, but you'd assume Miller
would have a significant edge in this category.

Let's take a look:

Ground Strikes Landed:


Guillard -- 5 of 7
Miller -- 22 of 35

Percentage:


Guillard -- 71 percent
Miller -- 63 percent

Power Ground Strikes Landed:

Guillard -- 5
Miller -- 12

Non-Power Ground Strikes Landed:


Guillard -- 0
Miller -- 10

Takedowns:

Guillard -- 5 of 5 (100 percent)
Miller -- 17 of 25 (68 percent)

Submission Attempts:


Guillard -- 0
Miller -- 15

Dominant Positions:

Guillard -- 2
Miller -- 23

I think Melvin gets subbed. Not that he doesn't have a chance but this is an easy pick imo.

ian mccall
@Unclecreepymma
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I'm with mccall on those for the most part.

Hard fight to call....both are pretenders to the Lhw title. Miller is more skilled but lacks athleticism, Melvin is athletic as hell but probably the biggest idiot in MMA. Either Melvin ktfos his cracka ass or gets choked out.

GDPofDRC wrote:

I'm with mccall on those for the most part.

I'm rolling with Minow, but it's a stretch. But I really like Miller here, I like him alot. Barry-Moorecraft could go either way, won't be surprised by either man winning.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Hard fight to call....both are pretenders to the Lhw title. Miller is more skilled but lacks athleticism, Melvin is athletic as hell but probably the biggest idiot in MMA. Either Melvin ktfos his cracka ass or gets choked out.

So Miller can't put Melvin out? What what I can tell and from reading what EVERYONE else is saying as well. The striking power is pretty equal.

Did I say he cant? Just stating my opinion on how the fight would likely go in my opinion. Melvins chin is hardly iron clad. I if you recall said Joe had a great chance to beat dude.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Did I say he cant? Just stating my opinion on how the fight would likely go in my opinion. Melvins chin is hardly iron clad. I if you recall said Joe had a great chance to beat dude.

Don't recall but that would have been a nice call. Lucky for you you saw both men fight before retiring as a fan. Also what makes theses men pretenders? Do you not buy the many factors that went in to Millers poor performance in his last outing? I for one don't think the man is lying and think a rematch would play out differently. Not saying he would beat Bendo but he would be more competitive for sure. I think Miller is a legit threat at LW.

Why when ever Melvin loses people just claim he just fought stupid? Is it crazy to think that the reason he lost most of his fights was because he was facing a superior submission grappler and his submission defense is not that great?

I buy that he was sick but hes not gonna beat guys like Maynard Edgar or bendo.

His shifty sub defence is part and parcel to his idiocy

Wolfgangsta wrote:

I buy that he was sick but hes not gonna beat guys like Maynard Edgar or bendo.

So are those the only 3 real contenders at LW? Everyone else being "pretenders". You don't think Miller can provide a better fight in rematches with those guys?

Ninja wrote:

Why when ever Melvin loses people just claim he just fought stupid? Is it crazy to think that the reason he lost most of his fights was because he was facing a superior submission grappler and his submission defense is not that great?

I think people take it too far, so I would agree. I think it has been a factor in the past but I think both Joe and Nate have a great shot at subbing him again in rematches.

I don't see him beating Gil or ever being champ. He may not even get a chance to face any champ anyway.