How did you score the main event?

I gave Hendo the first 3 including 1 10-8 (can't remember which round). Then Shogun won the last 2 including round 5 with a 10-8.

47-46 Hendo.

Agree? Disagree?

I agree but I didnt have any 10-8s just scored the 1st 3 for Hendo and last 2 for shogun. I thought the judges got it right on.

I only ask because some MMA site said it should have been a draw.

Yeah i was just reading that Dana said it should have been a draw also.

I had it-

1. Hendo 10-9
2. Hendo 10-9
3. Hendo 10-9
4. Rua 10-9
5. Rua 10-8

Overall 47-47

I had it a draw at best for Hendo. I watched after and would have to watch the first 3 rounds again to make sure that I scored them all for Dan but Shogun won the last 2 and the 5th was a 10-8 without question

I like Farmer's scoring.

Im not in the boat of saying rnd 5 was a without question 10-8. Pretty fair to say the least damage was dished out in that rnd, than any of the previous 4. Yeah he had control, yeah he had dominant position, but look at the 3rd rnd if u want to see true damage done. Maybe I need to rewatch but I thought the 4th was shogun's best rnd.

But if u are going to give Shogun a 10-8 in the 5th, u have to give Hendo a 10-8 in the 3rd.

Couple guys where we were at thought Shogun won, but I thought it was a pretty clear 3-2 Hendo.

i think Hendo won. He clearly won the 1st 3 rounds. Im not down with giving Shogun a 10-8 round either. Yea he got a bunch of dominant positions but didn't really threaten to finish.

How can you give shogun a 10-8 for getting mount a couple times but not doing anything with it but not give Hendo a 10-8 in round 3? Hendo did significantly more damage in that round than Shougun did in the 5th.

Yeah i didnt think Shogun should have gotten a 10-8 round for round 5 either.

I had it 47-47. rounds 1-3 for Hendo, rounds 4 and 5 for Rua with round 5 being 10-8.

From the rules:
A round is to be scored as a 10-8 Round when a fighter overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.


The 10-8 is warranted in the 5th round because of the dominant grappling and striking. He had him controlled from 30 seconds into the 5th round till time expired. Hendo did absolutley nothing the entire round.


Round 3 was close in the striking and Rua had the sub attempt, not a good one but it was there, Rua also had a takedown in that round. The damage was what gave Hendo the round but it wasn't enough to make it 10-8.

3 was a much more lopsided rnd. WAY more damage inflicted. If I were ref, I prob would have stopped it.

One gassed fighter controlling an even more gassed fighter, without significant damage should not warrant a bigger scoring differential then a rnd in which a fighter gets pounded on.

Significant damage has nothing to do with being dominated grappling, which is in the scoring criteria. Rua did enough in the 3rd round so it wasn't a 10-8 round.

Primetyme199 wrote:

I had it 47-47. rounds 1-3 for Hendo, rounds 4 and 5 for Rua with round 5 being 10-8.

From the rules:
A round is to be scored as a 10-8 Round when a fighter overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.


The 10-8 is warranted in the 5th round because of the dominant grappling and striking. He had him controlled from 30 seconds into the 5th round till time expired. Hendo did absolutley nothing the entire round.


Round 3 was close in the striking and Rua had the sub attempt, not a good one but it was there, Rua also had a takedown in that round. The damage was what gave Hendo the round but it wasn't enough to make it 10-8.

I had the same score as you. Hendo didn't give a 9 point round in the fifth compared to the 10 points Shogun gave in that round.

Primetyme199 wrote:

Significant damage has nothing to do with being dominated grappling, which is in the scoring criteria. Rua did enough in the 3rd round so it wasn't a 10-8 round.

Subjective. IMO if the 5th is a 10-8, then the 3rd also is a 10-8.

captain organic wrote:

Primetyme199 wrote:

Significant damage has nothing to do with being dominated grappling, which is in the scoring criteria. Rua did enough in the 3rd round so it wasn't a 10-8 round.

Subjective. IMO if the 5th is a 10-8, then the 3rd also is a 10-8.

All scoring is.

You have to take each round seperately. You cannot compare round 3 and round 5 or round 4 and round 1. You have to look at each round like it's a seperate fight, because scoring wise it is.

Primetyme199 wrote:

captain organic wrote:

Primetyme199 wrote:

Significant damage has nothing to do with being dominated grappling, which is in the scoring criteria. Rua did enough in the 3rd round so it wasn't a 10-8 round.

Subjective. IMO if the 5th is a 10-8, then the 3rd also is a 10-8.

All scoring is.

You have to take each round seperately. You cannot compare round 3 and round 5 or round 4 and round 1. You have to look at each round like it's a seperate fight, because scoring wise it is.

And there needs to be consistency of scoring from one rnd to the next. And rnd 3 was a more dominant rnd then rnd 5. I don't see how one can argue against that. And thus one cannot score the 5th with a wider margin.

Each round must be scored by itself as if no other round existed.

I didnt think round 5 was a 10-8 because hendo was never in danger of being finished at all. Shogun was exhausted and did alot of laying and trying to catch his breath in the 5th round and hendo was gassed so much he couldnt even attempt to get off his back. I agree with Capt. tough for me to call that a 10-8 round.

This isn't my post but it pretty much sums it up to me.



Just rewatched the fight...this is how it went donw...
from the start minute up till minute 1 shogun conected 1 good head kick, one good kick to the mid section, one good punch back up against the cage, hendo conected about 3 good hands, was pretty even at that moment...

second minute of the round... clinch and hendo gets a take down, but shogun stands up inmediately, shogun conects one jab and hendo another, then shogun connects one one right hand, a 1 2 combo and a nice upercut (not much damage was done though), minute 2:20, hendo conects a horrible leg kick wich takes away shoguns attention and then a huge right hand wich sends shogun to de canvas, wich leads to a cruel GnP from Hendo for 34 secs, hendo landed like 20 blows, and most of them were pretty powerful ones, lefting around 2:20 secs on the clock shogun sweeps from half guard and works a heel hook (he controls the action for about 20 to 30 secs)... now theres 2 minutes left on the clock and shogun and hendo are clinching agasint the fence (shogun pressing hendo)...they clinch for 1 minute, shogun goes for a TD and eats 4 elbows to the temple (hard ones) he gets the TD, gets half mount and conects like 4 or 5 left hands, hendo gets back up, shogun is still pressing him agaisnt the cage and on his side (rogan says "hes got his back") with 20 secs left, shogun conects a good elbow and a breef exchange... then the round goes away...

that is not a 10-8...

timthebim wrote:

I didnt think round 5 was a 10-8 because hendo was never in danger of being finished at all. Shogun was exhausted and did alot of laying and trying to catch his breath in the 5th round and hendo was gassed so much he couldnt even attempt to get off his back. I agree with Capt. tough for me to call that a 10-8 round.

Was Hendo dominated in the grappling aspect in the 5th round?

the right decision was made. Hendo won the fight. the end.

oggy420 wrote:

the right decision was made. Hendo won the fight. the end.

lmao

Primetyme199 wrote:

This isn't my post but it pretty much sums it up to me.



Just rewatched the fight...this is how it went donw...
from the start minute up till minute 1 shogun conected 1 good head kick, one good kick to the mid section, one good punch back up against the cage, hendo conected about 3 good hands, was pretty even at that moment...

second minute of the round... clinch and hendo gets a take down, but shogun stands up inmediately, shogun conects one jab and hendo another, then shogun connects one one right hand, a 1 2 combo and a nice upercut (not much damage was done though), minute 2:20, hendo conects a horrible leg kick wich takes away shoguns attention and then a huge right hand wich sends shogun to de canvas, wich leads to a cruel GnP from Hendo for 34 secs, hendo landed like 20 blows, and most of them were pretty powerful ones, lefting around 2:20 secs on the clock shogun sweeps from half guard and works a heel hook (he controls the action for about 20 to 30 secs)... now theres 2 minutes left on the clock and shogun and hendo are clinching agasint the fence (shogun pressing hendo)...they clinch for 1 minute, shogun goes for a TD and eats 4 elbows to the temple (hard ones) he gets the TD, gets half mount and conects like 4 or 5 left hands, hendo gets back up, shogun is still pressing him agaisnt the cage and on his side (rogan says "hes got his back") with 20 secs left, shogun conects a good elbow and a breef exchange... then the round goes away...

that is not a 10-8...

It was imo. Again if Im ref, im prob jumping in there, I can't remember a fight in which a fighter was in that much trouble without the ref jumping in. Rua was ruined. And he continued to be ruined even as he pushed hendo against the fence. And those elbows from Hendo(and I believe there were 2 sequences of them) were brutal and very reminiscent of the elbows Feijao used to finish Mo.