MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1...

i feel ya it does take like 30 minutes to an hour to just make the damn fighter, so you just play online and exhibition?

title mode, exhibition, but ya ill make a fighter sooner or later.

Actually I like detailed create a fighters because it lets me put everyone they missed in the game. I just never ended up making any fighters last year. Too lazy.

I will this year. This Undisputed will end up leading to much deeper gameplay and more desire for me to play it.

This year was the opposite of last year. The first game was a firestorm and had a great honeymoon, but once we played it for a while we realized it wasn't very deep. This game was different and started off on a rocky road, but once you get used to it its much better than 09 and is much more than a roster update.

The sway feature alone is better, but the way they redid the ground ends up working out better than last years, flipflop for me.

Just Curious, you guys want to ?

Only if its a top 20

hahha ok Im down with that

10 would be easier but 20 is fine with me

just thought it would be neat to have our official P4P All TIme rankings

It'll be very tough but also fun, so i'm in. You can't name 10 Lions Den members though

this is tough. Are we doing this as a true p4p list? Cause most of my top guys will be the same....

I will on one condition, anyone finished by tit ortiz cannot be on the list

Cu Bua wrote:

I will on one condition, anyone finished by tit ortiz cannot be on the list

I second that motion.

Ken Shamrock isn't an all time p4p'r anyway so that wouldn't be a concern.


Ya I said it.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Ken Shamrock isn't an all time p4p'r anyway so that wouldn't be a concern.


Ya I said it.

oh no u dinnitt!

Can I rank Cung Le including his non MMA fights? heh he he

not like my raknings will be the final ones

1. Frank Shamrock - when he put it all together, he was the best fighter i have ever seen.
2. GSP - great technicia, stand up and strong wrestling.
3. Matt Hughes - master wrestler with good submission and stand up in his prime.
4. Wandy - one of the msot feared fighters ever in his prime.
5. BJ Penn - think he is number 5 material.
6. Kazushi Sakuraba - a bad ass grappling master who always was game, unless your name was Wanderlei.
7. Royce Gracie - another one thats hard to rate.
8. Fedor - Hard to place him since heavyweights are hard to rank. Think he belongs here.
9. Randy Couture
10. Ken Shamrock - 23-5-2 in a 3 year period
11. Bas Rutten - great striker, blew out his knee's while in his prime.
12. Shogun Rua - and only moving up
13. Chuck Liddell - a sprawl and brawl beast in his hey day
14. Anderson Silva - still moving up, but he doesnt have the "huge win" that the men above him have.
15. Jens Pulver - thinkthis is about right for Lil Evil
16. The Huntington Beach Pussy
17. Rickson Gracie - he really didnt fight enough to be top 10 IMO.
18. Big Nog - one of the best heavyweights in his prime, a great BJJ fighter
19. Mirco Cro Cop - think this is right where he should be
20. Guy Mezger - One of the best Light Heavy's of all time, great kick boxing stand up. Only lost to men above him for the msot part, giving them all tough fights.

just missing, Pat Miletich, Rich Franklin,

wow bird those rankings sure look different than mine would look. No Mark Coleman? I could make a strong case for him.

These rankings will be nuts because some will take this as a best of all time list and adjust for eras and others will say if this is an all time p4p thread, then the best fighters overall should be ranked higher, meaning A. Silva, Shogun, Machida and other fighters active now who would have obliterated guys like Gracie if teleported back to 93. You're list is kind of a mix of that actually.

Here is mine off the top of my head without much thought.

1.Fedor
2.Hughes
3.GSP
4.Anderson
5.Liddell
7.Wand
8.Hendo
9.Penn
10.Faber
11.Couture
12.Shogun
13.Gomi
14.F Shamrock
15.Rampage
16.Sakuraba
17.Aldo
18.Big Nog
19.Pulver
20.Franklin

ya i mix, i wont put guys like Machida (with 15 fights) over these guys

Machida has the p4p resume though. He has wins over like 3 people on your list actually.

I know he does, just dont have him their yet, hes atop 25 guy IMO, but his legacy ahsnt surpassed some of these guys
imo

know make your list or else you might have to see Ken in a top 10!

Any list with Fedor not number 1 shouldn't be included.

so far only farmers man enough to make one without criticizing??????/

I'll be critical, he has Hughes second all-time who never expanded his game enough be be nearly that high all-time, and ahead of GSP? WTF?

P4P lists should be based on skill level with legacy as a kicker

For instance Shogun is a better alltime fighter than Chuck or Randy yet they're legacy is better right now.

LA do your ranking, just top 10 if you want

Too fucked up to do it perfectly right now, I don't really do the rankings on here because some lists skew the results.

This is P4P all-time, people have to remember that