Do you like the buyout of Strikeforce?

Well explain what you like, because I watch pretty much every single Org, fighter, events ect. Been into Martial Arts since I was 7. Think there is no more pure Sport in the World then MMA. Want nothing but to see MMA grow and succeed.

MMA becomes bigger because of this, in a way it never could have with multiple Orgs.

I don't value the MMA I'm a fan of instrumentally, it's purely intrinsic.

Who said anyone else did

I have said it

LA aren't you the slightest bit worried this thing could have some negative side effects?

GDPofDRC wrote:

I have said it

Ok?

OU wrote:

LA aren't you the slightest bit worried this thing could have some negative side effects?

Not at all, they will tread carefully until they have a layed out plan of approach, think this will take MMA to the next level. Things will come from this that will benefit all parties involved, from fighters to fans.

LA wrote:

OU wrote:

LA aren't you the slightest bit worried this thing could have some negative side effects?

Not at all, they will tread carefully until they have a layed out plan of approach, think this will take MMA to the next level. Things will come from this that will benefit all parties involved, from fighters to fans.

You are a glass 100% full kinda guy. I wish I could be that optimistic.

No, half empty on most things...

The UFC will do whatever is right for the UFC, not the sport as a whole or the fans. So there are defiantly some things they could do here that I would call negative. Time will tell how it plays out.

Well any company wants success for itself, but do people really believe they'd do anything to hurt the Sport. They're hole goal is to take it to the next level.

LA wrote:

Well any company wants success for itself, but do people really believe they'd do anything to hurt the Sport. They're hole goal is to take it to the next level.

Hell yeah I think they could make moves that would hurt the sport. They are all about making the UFC global, not MMA. I'm hoping they do always consider the best interest of the sport, but with $ involved that doesn't always happen. I'm not just going to assume they make all the right moves with this thing.

Haven't seen the UFC make any bad moves for MMA yet, and bringng he UFC Global naturally brings MMA Global at this point. Now they may do the same with SF further speading MMA Globally.

It wouldn't matter if roles were reversed and it was SF in the UFC's shoes, whoever is the best Organization to respresent the Sport is all that matters.

LA wrote:

Haven't seen the UFC make any bad moves for MMA yet, and bringng he UFC Global naturally brings MMA Global at this point. Now they may do the same with SF further speading MMA Globally.

It wouldn't matter if roles were reversed and it was SF in the UFC's shoes, whoever is the best Organization to respresent the Sport is all that matters.

I'm just saying, I hope they keep SF around awhile. I hope they keep featuring woman's mma, I hope they still co-promote in the future. A full merger at any point in the next couple years would not be the best thing IMO.

SF should be used like the WEC but with all divisions (maybe except BW and FW) and WMMA, it can put on all smaller more affordable shows, but still with top level talent because the pool will be soo deep. Go to the venues the UFC may not go to with ticket prices comparable to what SF has been putting out. The top fighters should fight in the UFC, so much talent is there to make very exciting shows still.

We could see 52 events per year, many directions they can go here.

Think about some of the talented guys cut by the UFC.

LA wrote:

SF should be used like the WEC but with all divisions (maybe except BW and FW) and WMMA, it can put on all smaller more affordable shows, but still with top level talent because the pool will be soo deep. Go to the venues the UFC may not go to with ticket prices comparable to what SF has been putting out. The top fighters should fight in the UFC, so much talent is there to make very exciting shows still.

We could see 52 events per year, many directions they can go here.

I'd like to see at the minimum. SF kept around for woman's mma and Challengers series type events. At the very least. But I'd prefer they stay as much more then that.

There are alot of things they could do here. I hope for the short run they can promote eachother, talk well about the fighters and just make it easier for guys to go from one to the other.

I like something higher level then Challegers Series, like a very very good B Organization, soo many good fighters out there to fill both Orgs. Guys can work they're way up, some down, but the events would still be very good and more affordable.

LA wrote:

Haven't seen the UFC make any bad moves for MMA yet, and bringng he UFC Global naturally brings MMA Global at this point. Now they may do the same with SF further speading MMA Globally.

It wouldn't matter if roles were reversed and it was SF in the UFC's shoes, whoever is the best Organization to respresent the Sport is all that matters.

Seriously? The UFC makes it as difficult as possible for non-UFC events to survive. Their head guy consistently bashes non zuffa fighters. They cut media credentials to reporters who don't toe the company line. They strong arm their own fighters in an attempt to control their video game rights, they boot fighters to the curb who don't kiss dana's ass, or guys who may have one questionable performance. Etc Etc

And that's fine, it's a business, they are looking at their own best interests. But they are not in this to support MMA as a whole.

Personally Im in the mixed feelings dept. I was digging the fact that SF was bringing high level fights to non ppv. And yeah I was digging the fact that the success of SF was getting under Dana's skin, as well as the many UFC huggers.

I worry that if SF is absorbed into the UFC we will see a bunch of cuts much like we have seen when the WEC was absorbed. And those guys will have less options (although I have stated I suspect other org's will fill that void). And taking a cue from my paragraph above. Where do the talented fighters who Dana black balls go?

I'd feel much better about all this if Randy was running this thing.

On the other hand when it's Reem vs Cain for the title, all this side stuff won't mean ish.

It's too soon to say.

I honestly can't see this being bad in the long run. I can't wait to see what happens in the next 6 months.

yes i love it! i want to see fedor get smashed!

captain organic wrote:

LA wrote:

Haven't seen the UFC make any bad moves for MMA yet, and bringng he UFC Global naturally brings MMA Global at this point. Now they may do the same with SF further speading MMA Globally.

It wouldn't matter if roles were reversed and it was SF in the UFC's shoes, whoever is the best Organization to respresent the Sport is all that matters.

Seriously? The UFC makes it as difficult as possible for non-UFC events to survive. Their head guy consistently bashes non zuffa fighters. They cut media credentials to reporters who don't toe the company line. They strong arm their own fighters in an attempt to control their video game rights, they boot fighters to the curb who don't kiss dana's ass, or guys who may have one questionable performance. Etc Etc

And that's fine, it's a business, they are looking at their own best interests. But they are not in this to support MMA as a whole.

Personally Im in the mixed feelings dept. I was digging the fact that SF was bringing high level fights to non ppv. And yeah I was digging the fact that the success of SF was getting under Dana's skin, as well as the many UFC huggers.

I worry that if SF is absorbed into the UFC we will see a bunch of cuts much like we have seen when the WEC was absorbed. And those guys will have less options (although I have stated I suspect other org's will fill that void). And taking a cue from my paragraph above. Where do the talented fighters who Dana black balls go?

I'd feel much better about all this if Randy was running this thing.

On the other hand when it's Reem vs Cain for the title, all this side stuff won't mean ish.

I completely respect your opinion Capt., I personally see things very different, but don't think it's neccessary for us, or me and GDP, to keep going back and forth on it. You guys are knowledgable MMA fans, we just disagree on this.