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PostSubject: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 1:33 pm

In so many words...
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/1/25/1954962/kenny-florian-talks-melvin-guillard-fight-me

Quote :
"It doesn't make sense. There's a lot of guys working hard. It's who the best fighter is. If Melvin (Guillard) thinks he deserves a shot over me, he should fight me and beat me. It's always about who the best fighter is. Who has he beaten? What has he done?"

"That's great he's finally considered a top contender. Losing to Joe Stevenson in the first round isn't gonna get you that shot. You have to be consistent. He has to separate himself from the pack. I would take that fight."
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 1:34 pm

Yeah I saw that this morning. Kenny vs Melvin makes sense to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 1:35 pm

i just see this ending badly for kenny
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 1:38 pm

killerofchicken wrote:
i just see this ending badly for kenny

Why? I think Kenny subs him....but then again I picked Dunham to sub him too.
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 1:40 pm

hows kenny gonna sub him? i dont see kenny taking anyone down with his twig like limbs
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 1:40 pm

This is a very tough call to pick.

Guillard has the far better stand up advantage....and his takedown defense is very good.

Kenflo's takedowns are average at best IMO, but his ground game is 10x better than Melvins....so if Kenflo got it to the ground, I dont see anyway Guillard gets back up.

Pretty tough fight to choose the winner for.
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 1:41 pm

Most of Kenny's subs come following rocking someone in the standup like he did with Gomi and Guida in his last 2 wins. Not sure that would happen here
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 1:43 pm

killerofchicken wrote:
hows kenny gonna sub him? i dont see kenny taking anyone down with his twig like limbs

Nate Diaz sub'd him.
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 1:43 pm

OU wrote:
killerofchicken wrote:
hows kenny gonna sub him? i dont see kenny taking anyone down with his twig like limbs

Nate Diaz sub'd him.

How long ago was this?
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 1:44 pm

I think Kenny has a good enough chin and good enough reach and standup to be effective enough standing to eventually get the fight down if he wanted to.
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 1:45 pm

NoRegret wrote:
OU wrote:
killerofchicken wrote:
hows kenny gonna sub him? i dont see kenny taking anyone down with his twig like limbs

Nate Diaz sub'd him.

How long ago was this?

Sep 09
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 1:45 pm

Pretty sure it was the last fight before he joined Jackson. Was doing good on the feet early and then got subbed
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 1:46 pm

OU wrote:
killerofchicken wrote:
hows kenny gonna sub him? i dont see kenny taking anyone down with his twig like limbs

Nate Diaz sub'd him.
you know better than this! that was too long ago, and if this is the same Melvin that fought diaz back then we wouldnt be talking about him like we are
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 1:59 pm

I love Kenflo and he has a better stand-up game than Evan, but unless he has doen some hardcore training with his wrestling coach, I don't see this being good for him.
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 2:10 pm

kenny will get rocked nuff said.
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 2:13 pm

Kenny survived just fine standing vs dangerous Gomi. Kenny isn't a bad standup fighter and has nice reach. IMO he would do just fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 2:14 pm

OU wrote:
Kenny survived just fine standing vs dangerous Gomi. Kenny isn't a bad standup fighter and has nice reach. IMO he would do just fine.
gomis srikes are predictable and suited for kennys style, just my opinion
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 2:14 pm

OU wrote:
Kenny survived just fine standing vs dangerous Gomi. Kenny isn't a bad standup fighter and has nice reach. IMO he would do just fine.




BUT! Melvin has way better hands.
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 2:16 pm

josh200612 wrote:
OU wrote:
Kenny survived just fine standing vs dangerous Gomi. Kenny isn't a bad standup fighter and has nice reach. IMO he would do just fine.




BUT! Melvin has way better hands.

way better? Why? He isn't some elite striker. Just explosive.
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 2:19 pm

OU wrote:
josh200612 wrote:
OU wrote:
Kenny survived just fine standing vs dangerous Gomi. Kenny isn't a bad standup fighter and has nice reach. IMO he would do just fine.




BUT! Melvin has way better hands.

way better? Why? He isn't some elite striker. Just explosive.



ok he isn't tech BUT when he lands it's good shit. he rocks people with body shots like WHOA!
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 2:31 pm

Kenny is the last person to ask who have you beat? considering he loses everytime the bacon is on the line

Guillard wins this imo
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 2:34 pm

I don't even like Kenny, I hate on him all the time. I like Melvin, root for him all the time. I'm just surprised I have to defend Kenny here. IMO people are overreacting to Melvin right now, he has improved but I still think he is getting slightly too much credit right now.
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 2:41 pm

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I don't even like Kenny, I hate on him all the time. I like Melvin, root for him all the time. I'm just surprised I have to defend Kenny here. IMO people are overreacting to Melvin right now, he has improved but I still think he is getting slightly too much credit right nowmeow.
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 2:41 pm

lol, i felt like i had to


but in all seriousness, i had to
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PostSubject: Re: Florian wants Guillard   Florian wants Guillard EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 2:45 pm

Melvin is a stud and joining Jackson was the best thing he could've done. I think he is way better than the Melvin of two years ago. He always seemed like he was top 5 in raw talent alone. The guy has great hands, hits hard, and is very fast. Jackson has this guy in incrdible shape and plans his fights great. I think this will be his year in the LW division. He rapes Kenny!
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