IF Fedor loses

With the top 4 people in the P4P lists so tightly nitched together...if Fedor loses his next fight, where would that place him on your P4P lists? Personally I would have him fall to #4 if he loses this fight.

I didn't drop Faber that far after his 1st loss and I didn't drop Torres too far after this last one. I think I moved him from #4 to #8. Fedor would probably go to 4-5. Behind Machida and infront of BJ.

GSP was another one I didn't drop very far after his loss to Serra.

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Obviously Fedor wouldn't drop that far, the question is where would Rogers be after taking out Arlovski and Fedor...

Luckily we will never have to worry about it.

Faber and Torres are not Fedor by a long shot and I have them in or very near my top ten to the point I could make cases for either of them anyway in my p4p top ten.

I dont have Fedor number 1 right now I have him at 3 behind Spider and GSP and just ahead of Machida so I think if he loses he only drops to 4 on my list.

He would definetly fall out of the #1 hole with me, but not out of the top 5.

Down to 4 behind GSP, Anderson, Lyoto

Well lets see, thanks for making that if a big if. You have to rank Rogers over him because of the victory, but I couldn't see Rogers ranked P4P over Machida, Spider, or GSP. So I think Fedor would fall to 5 possibly 6.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Well lets see, thanks for making that if a big if. You have to rank Rogers over him because of the victory, but I couldn't see Rogers ranked P4P over Machida, Spider, or GSP. So I think Fedor would fall to 5 possibly 6.

I didn't rank MTB over Faber until the 2nd loss and I still don't have Bowles over Torres. It really depends on the loss I guess but in MMA many things can happen and even the greats stumble. I barely even budged GSP after the Serra loss and damn sure didn't put Serra over GSP on any P4P list. All I am saying is it isn't a given that Rogers should jump him in my opinion.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Well lets see, thanks for making that if a big if. You have to rank Rogers over him because of the victory, but I couldn't see Rogers ranked P4P over Machida, Spider, or GSP. So I think Fedor would fall to 5 possibly 6.

I didn't rank MTB over Faber until the 2nd loss and I still don't have Bowles over Torres. It really depends on the loss I guess but in MMA many things can happen and even the greats stumble. I barely even budged GSP after the Serra loss and damn sure didn't put Serra over GSP on any P4P list. All I am saying is it isn't a given that Rogers should jump him in my opinion.

I would not rank Brett over Fedor. And considering Grim's size does he get hurt in the p4p discussion much like Brock?

I can see Fedor as #3, ahead of GSP.

If Grim KOs Fedor like he did Arlovski, how could you rank Fedor over him? I mean if it is a close fight and won by split decision, fine but I think we will have to see Rogers actually beating him and how he did it, to reach this point. This is speculative, true, but let us see it happen first. I still have Fedor beatinghim by a kneebar.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

If Grim KOs Fedor like he did Arlovski, how could you rank Fedor over him? I mean if it is a close fight and won by split decision, fine but I think we will have to see Rogers actually beating him and how he did it, to reach this point. This is speculative, true, but let us see it happen first. I still have Fedor beatinghim by a kneebar.

Same way I didn't put Serra over GSP after his his KO. GSP, Fedor and Spider have all put in so much work over the years to get the rankings they have. 1 slip doesn't drop then too far in my book, I put a lot more on the next fight. That fight will tell me, was it a slip? or is that guy just better. If Rogers was just flat out beating Fedor before he finished him or got a clear cut dec over Fedor then IMO that is different. That is just how I see it though.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

If Grim KOs Fedor like he did Arlovski, how could you rank Fedor over him? I mean if it is a close fight and won by split decision, fine but I think we will have to see Rogers actually beating him and how he did it, to reach this point. This is speculative, true, but let us see it happen first. I still have Fedor beatinghim by a kneebar.

People would probably rank Grim higher on their P4P if he beat Fedor going the distance. A quick KO is more likely to be dismissed as flukey.

Jruq wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

If Grim KOs Fedor like he did Arlovski, how could you rank Fedor over him? I mean if it is a close fight and won by split decision, fine but I think we will have to see Rogers actually beating him and how he did it, to reach this point. This is speculative, true, but let us see it happen first. I still have Fedor beatinghim by a kneebar.

People would probably rank Grim higher on their P4P if he beat Fedor going the distance. A quick KO is more likely to be dismissed as flukey.

Good point.