UFC trying to sign Carwin vs Nelson

LA wrote:

Mir doesn't have good takedowns, but can avoid them, the fact that Roy couldn't get JDS down is a good sign for him against Carwin, it's not like Carwin has the wrestling Brock has, do more HW.

Mir can avoid takedowns? worked well against Brock.

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

LA wrote:

Mir doesn't have good takedowns, but can avoid them, the fact that Roy couldn't get JDS down is a good sign for him against Carwin, it's not like Carwin has the wrestling Brock has, do more HW.

Mir can avoid takedowns? worked well against Brock.

He wasn't taken down he was beat down.

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

LA wrote:

Mir doesn't have good takedowns, but can avoid them, the fact that Roy couldn't get JDS down is a good sign for him against Carwin, it's not like Carwin has the wrestling Brock has, do more HW.

Mir can avoid takedowns? worked well against Brock.

LOL do you know Brock's wrestling credentials? He's a former division 1 National Champion and was runner-up the year before, very few if any guys will stay standing against him for long, Carwin needed some juice....

LA wrote:

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

LA wrote:

Mir doesn't have good takedowns, but can avoid them, the fact that Roy couldn't get JDS down is a good sign for him against Carwin, it's not like Carwin has the wrestling Brock has, do more HW.

Mir can avoid takedowns? worked well against Brock.

LOL do you know Brock's wrestling credentials? He's a former division 1 National Champion and was runner-up the year before, very few if any guys will stay standing against him for long, Carwin needed some juice....

Carwin's roid connection was shut down in 06, before he ever joined the UFC. Brock has been arrested with roids in the past. I wouldn't call either guy dirtier then the other.

I thought there was never any full proof links to Brock and roids

I was joking with Carwin but you never know

There was also "proof" for Carwin. He was just connect to a company that was shut down due to roids in 2006.

He admitted it too

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

Carwin destroys anyone not named Brock Lesnar in the UFC.

Lolz. Carwin gets dropped like a bad habit by JDS and probably Cain too. Even if he used his wrestling against JDS which he may or may not do, he would be ready to go by the 2nd round and he never moves his head to begin with.

LA wrote:

He admitted it too

Where? I read just today he has made no comment since those reports surfaced.

I thought he did right after the reports surfaced, couldn't find anything though

Fed US Prosecutors named Carwin as receiving illegal prescriptions from the roid doctor. It could be a big misunderstanding, probably a weed prescription. Carwin didn't admit anything.
Brock just got picked up with a duffel full of chems so high tech, Minni cops didn't know a thing about them except for the need for a syringe to use them. Another misunderstanding. These guys are equally clean or dirty in my opinion, but neither is free of the taint.

I highly doubt anyone believes that Brock really spent that much time in the WWE without taking steroids

LA wrote:

I thought he did right after the reports surfaced, couldn't find anything though

Nope, never a peep about it from him or Dana.
http://mmajunkie.com/news/20898/heavyweight-shane-carwin-expects-return-at-ufc-125-on-jan-1.mma
"Carwin, a two-time NCAA Division II national wrestling runner-up and 1999 champion, hasn't spoken publicly since August reports linked him to Applied Pharmacy Services, which was shut down due to the illegal distribution of anabolic steroids. As MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) reported, a federal prosecutor claims Carwin is one of 22 professional athletes who received steroids (in 2006, prior to signing with the UFC). However, it's unknown if Carwin used any banned substances, and the fighter has never failed a drug test during his five-year pro career.

Like Carwin, both his manager and UFC president Dana White have declined to comment on the matter, and currently, no legal action has been taken against the fighter. "

I found something where it said he had like ordered roids from the Pharmacy, can't prove he took him, but I read that somewhere.

LA wrote:

I found something where it said he had like ordered roids from the Pharmacy, can't prove he took him, but I read that somewhere.

They were probably for his horse though.

LA wrote:

I found something where it said he had like ordered roids from the Pharmacy, can't prove he took him, but I read that somewhere.

Yep, common sense and some evidence tell you both men took roids at some point in time.

I got Carwin in this one, I never thought too much of Nelson to begin with

1)I have Carwin crushing Roy. Nelson may be savy enough to take this fight into the 2nd rnd, but that will be through stall tactics, and stall tactics from the fat little kid will not tire the big man out.

2)C'mon of course Brock and Carwin used roids at some point. Both are prob clean now, but at some point these dudes juiced.

Great fight.

Nelson showed a tremendous chin against Cigano, I wouldn't be shocked to see him survive the first round onslaught and clip Shane's vulnerable chin in the second round.

I'm pulling for Roy, but I would bet on Shane.

captain organic wrote:

1)I have Carwin crushing Roy. Nelson may be savy enough to take this fight into the 2nd rnd, but that will be through stall tactics, and stall tactics from the fat little kid will not tire the big man out.

2)C'mon of course Brock and Carwin used roids at some point. Both are prob clean now, but at some point these dudes juiced.

Underselling Nelson here big time. Coin flip fight.

http://www.mmamania.com/2010/10/5/1732155/former-ufc-heavyweight-number-one-contender-shane-carwin-tweets-that


Update: Multiple reports peg Roy Nelson as the likely candidate; however, "Big Country" tweets that he's still in rehab for his surgically repaired knee.

Carwin by 1st round TKO