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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:25 pm
Overmatched opponent and he knows it. He can't turn it down. If you can make easily 700,000-1,000,000 in one fight, you have to take it.
timthebim Platinum Belt
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:43 pm
Great shot for Chisora but another let down fight by a Klitschko in my opinion.
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:06 pm
If only Adamek had just waited a couple weeks.
nano212 Yellow Belt
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:17 pm
timthebim wrote:
Great shot for Chisora but another let down fight by a Klitschko in my opinion.
Who would you like the Klitschko's to fight? Haye turned them down, Valuev? Chagaev ( who already got tkod by one) or Teddy Atlas fighter who just turned them down also Alexander Povetkin?
captainanddew Brown Belt
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:38 pm
Who is Wlad supposed to face?
ring rated top 10 guys Haye has a fight Vitali has a fight and they won't ever fight Povetkin-ran away!!! Adamek-has a fight and they did inquire and he didn't want to drop that fight for Wlad Chagaev-Wlad beat him Chambers-Wlad beat him Boytsov-his team isn't going to take the cash out at this early stage Valuev-Vitali tried that and Valuev outpriced himself (isn't he having surgery anyway?) Dimitrenko-HIs team isn't eager for him to step up after Chambers beat him going away Arreola-lost to Vitali, lost to Adamek, looked fat and out of shape in his comeback fight
others: Tony Thompson-Wlad already beat him though it was much more competitive than most of his fights Ray Austin-Wlad KO'd him in 2 Solis-just changed promotional teams and has likely shot against Vitali soon Sosnowski-vitali beat down Juan Carlos Gomez-Vitali beat him down Sam Peter-beaten down by both bros Holyfield-forget it Kevin Johnson-Vitali beat him easily and he is MIA since Hasim Rahman-Wlad already beat Mormeck-offered and turned it down David Tua-got a gift and looked super old against Barrett
There isn't anyone!!! Wlad and Vitali are dispatching everyone. After a few more fights almost everyone on the damn list will have lost to Wlad or Vitali.
captainanddew Brown Belt
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:44 pm
What gets to me is the guys on that list!!!!
None of the possible opponents will fight another contender. All they do is fight nobodies (not getting any better in doing so), and just wait for their turn to get the huge payday and a beatdown from either Klit.
captainanddew Brown Belt
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:46 pm
captainanddew wrote:
Who is Wlad supposed to face?
ring rated top 10 guys Haye has a fight Vitali has a fight and they won't ever fight Povetkin-ran away!!! Adamek-has a fight and they did inquire and he didn't want to drop that fight for Wlad Chagaev-Wlad beat him Chambers-Wlad beat him Boytsov-his team isn't going to take the cash out at this early stage Valuev-Vitali tried that and Valuev outpriced himself (isn't he having surgery anyway?) Dimitrenko-HIs team isn't eager for him to step up after Chambers beat him going away Arreola-lost to Vitali, lost to Adamek, looked fat and out of shape in his comeback fight
others: Tony Thompson-Wlad already beat him though it was much more competitive than most of his fights Ray Austin-Wlad KO'd him in 2 Solis-just changed promotional teams and has likely shot against Vitali soon Sosnowski-vitali beat down Juan Carlos Gomez-Vitali beat him down Sam Peter-beaten down by both bros Holyfield-forget it Kevin Johnson-Vitali beat him easily and he is MIA since Hasim Rahman-Wlad already beat Mormeck-offered and turned it down David Tua-got a gift and looked super old against Barrett
There isn't anyone!!! Wlad and Vitali are dispatching everyone. After a few more fights almost everyone on the damn list will have lost to Wlad or Vitali.
Micheal Grant could be added to the list.
marbleheadmaui Red Belt
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:13 pm
This is what happenes when men clean out divisions. Their dominance at some point makes some guys not want to fight them and leaves the rankings full of them and of men already beaten.
Usually what happens is some younguns come along and change the equation. But we seem a year or two away from Povetkin, Boystove and perhaps Dimitrenko from being ready and a lifetime from 13 (the fighter formerly known as 12) having sufficient nads.
I mean this is another of those occasions where the fault, such as it is, lies with everyone EXCEPT Wlad.
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:31 pm
im serious
the most interesting fight for me in the heavyweight division is a Tony Thompson rematch
captainanddew Brown Belt
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:04 pm
marbleheadmaui wrote:
This is what happenes when men clean out divisions. Their dominance at some point makes some guys not want to fight them and leaves the rankings full of them and of men already beaten.
Usually what happens is some younguns come along and change the equation. But we seem a year or two away from Povetkin, Boystove and perhaps Dimitrenko from being ready and a lifetime from 13 (the fighter formerly known as 12) having sufficient nads.
I mean this is another of those occasions where the fault, such as it is, lies with everyone EXCEPT Wlad.
Yeah, they have cleaned it out. Just another year or so when Adamek, Haye, Povetkin, Dimtrienko, and Boystov have all had a shot and lost, then the entire division will be a barren landscape. Oh wait, Mr. 13 isn't going to fight either of them.
timthebim Platinum Belt
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:11 pm
I will just say what every1 should be saying they need to fight each other. This division is such a joke right now and I havent seen such an underdog get a shot at the title since Apollo gave Rocky a shot(just a joke guys). I know they are brothers and have vowed never to fight each other but besides Floyd vs Pac would there be a bigger fight in boxing?
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:13 pm
I say James Toney should be punished for embarrassing boxing at UFC 117.
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:19 pm
timthebim wrote:
I will just say what every1 should be saying they need to fight each other. This division is such a joke right now and I havent seen such an underdog get a shot at the title since Apollo gave Rocky a shot(just a joke guys). I know they are brothers and have vowed never to fight each other but besides Floyd vs Pac would there be a bigger fight in boxing?
Lol Tim be serious for a second. Two brothers are never going to fight each other and no one should blame them.
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:21 pm
I've never been interested in seeing Vitali vs Wladimir, it's just wrong to force siblings to box each other on live tv.
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:25 pm
Ali_1748 wrote:
I've never been interested in seeing Vitali vs Wladimir, it's just wrong to force siblings to box each other on live tv.
they used to spar but had to stop, because it was getting too intense.
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:27 pm
captainanddew wrote:
Ali_1748 wrote:
I've never been interested in seeing Vitali vs Wladimir, it's just wrong to force siblings to box each other on live tv.
they used to spar but had to stop, because it was getting too intense.
Yeah I read about that in Ring magazine, apparently Wlad ended up in a bloody mess.
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:30 pm
[quote="captainanddew"]Who is Wlad supposed to face?
ring rated top 10 guys Haye has a fight Vitali has a fight and they won't ever fight Povetkin-ran away!!! Adamek-has a fight and they did inquire and he didn't want to drop that fight for Wlad Chagaev-Wlad beat him Chambers-Wlad beat him Boytsov-his team isn't going to take the cash out at this early stage Valuev-Vitali tried that and Valuev outpriced himself (isn't he having surgery anyway?) Dimitrenko-HIs team isn't eager for him to step up after Chambers beat him going away Arreola-lost to Vitali, lost to Adamek, looked fat and out of shape in his comeback fight
others: Tony Thompson-Wlad already beat him though it was much more competitive than most of his fights Ray Austin-Wlad KO'd him in 2 Solis-just changed promotional teams and has likely shot against Vitali soon Sosnowski-vitali beat down Juan Carlos Gomez-Vitali beat him down Sam Peter-beaten down by both bros Holyfield-forget it Kevin Johnson-Vitali beat him easily and he is MIA since Hasim Rahman-Wlad already beat Mormeck-offered and turned it down David Tua-got a gift and looked super old against Barrett
There isn't anyone!!! Wlad and Vitali are dispatching everyone. After a few more fights almost everyone on the damn list will have lost to Wlad or Vitali. [/quote
The important question is why doesn't Wlad or Vitali face each other, but rather why are all the guys in the top 10 and those i have listed as others, not actually facing anyone???? Sam Peter got another title shot by beating 3 total bums. There is alot of names above that could be matched to make fights that would prove who should be a challenger for Wlad or Vitali. The most viable guys aren't ready, and the rest are just being inactive, fighting bums, and praying for the "golden ticket".
If a fighter on the list beat a couple of other guys on the list, then we might have some challengers that have proven something.
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:18 am
[quote="captainanddew"]
captainanddew wrote:
Who is Wlad supposed to face?
ring rated top 10 guys Haye has a fight Vitali has a fight and they won't ever fight Povetkin-ran away!!! Adamek-has a fight and they did inquire and he didn't want to drop that fight for Wlad Chagaev-Wlad beat him Chambers-Wlad beat him Boytsov-his team isn't going to take the cash out at this early stage Valuev-Vitali tried that and Valuev outpriced himself (isn't he having surgery anyway?) Dimitrenko-HIs team isn't eager for him to step up after Chambers beat him going away Arreola-lost to Vitali, lost to Adamek, looked fat and out of shape in his comeback fight
others: Tony Thompson-Wlad already beat him though it was much more competitive than most of his fights Ray Austin-Wlad KO'd him in 2 Solis-just changed promotional teams and has likely shot against Vitali soon Sosnowski-vitali beat down Juan Carlos Gomez-Vitali beat him down Sam Peter-beaten down by both bros Holyfield-forget it Kevin Johnson-Vitali beat him easily and he is MIA since Hasim Rahman-Wlad already beat Mormeck-offered and turned it down David Tua-got a gift and looked super old against Barrett
There isn't anyone!!! Wlad and Vitali are dispatching everyone. After a few more fights almost everyone on the damn list will have lost to Wlad or Vitali. [/quote
The important question is why doesn't Wlad or Vitali face each other, but rather why are all the guys in the top 10 and those i have listed as others, not actually facing anyone???? Sam Peter got another title shot by beating 3 total bums. There is alot of names above that could be matched to make fights that would prove who should be a challenger for Wlad or Vitali. The most viable guys aren't ready, and the rest are just being inactive, fighting bums, and praying for the "golden ticket".
If a fighter on the list beat a couple of other guys on the list, then we might have some challengers that have proven something.
Well because it's a new era of course and fighting less often (but having lots of training camps) makes one better. And don't forget the magical training methods...and the unicorns! Don't you know anything?
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:24 am
Other than the brothers, this is the absolute worst era of heavies ever. EVER. FOR EVER AND EVER.
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:27 am
KrazyHorseBennett wrote:
Other than the brothers, this is the absolute worst era of heavies ever. EVER. FOR EVER AND EVER.
LOL, I'm a little bored and I'm trying to figure out if I want to argue with that.
NOPE!!!!!!!!!!
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:32 am
James Broad would be a dominant beltholder in today's division.
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:24 am
I really hope Chisora doesn't get this fight. Hes a classless bum and hasn't earned this shot at all. He tried to show some class against Sexton the last night but he had already showed his true colours long before that when he but that guys ear and didn't show any remorse whatsoever. He was actually smiling about it.
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:57 am
Ali_1748 wrote:
I've never been interested in seeing Vitali vs Wladimir, it's just wrong to force siblings to box each other on live tv.
Emmanuel Steward wants it, talking about friends fighting
Quote :
"It was a good fight and when you have those type of fights, usually nobody is going to be disgraced by a loss. It’s going to be a credible loss, if it is a loss. And I think when you’re part of a sport where you need to make fights- regardless of what relationships are- I mean, sometimes I even talk to Vitali and Wladimir [Klitschko] and they laugh and say, ’We’d use the excuse that we made the promise to our mother. But if we did fight, one of us- maybe both of us- would be physically damaged for life.’"
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Subject: Re: Looks like Wladimir Klitschko is seriously considering Derek Chisora for Dec Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:29 am
gomez1012 wrote:
Ali_1748 wrote:
I've never been interested in seeing Vitali vs Wladimir, it's just wrong to force siblings to box each other on live tv.
Emmanuel Steward wants it, talking about friends fighting
Quote :
"It was a good fight and when you have those type of fights, usually nobody is going to be disgraced by a loss. It’s going to be a credible loss, if it is a loss. And I think when you’re part of a sport where you need to make fights- regardless of what relationships are- I mean, sometimes I even talk to Vitali and Wladimir [Klitschko] and they laugh and say, ’We’d use the excuse that we made the promise to our mother. But if we did fight, one of us- maybe both of us- would be physically damaged for life.’"
I can't blame them for not fighting each other since they are brothers and they obviously love each other very much but there is no fight I want more right now than Klitschko vs Klitschko. How surreal would that be? Brother vs Brother. The two best heavyweights in the world. That quote makes me want to see it even more. Call me sick in the head but I'd love to see them throw down.
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