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icebergsnoopy Yellow Belt
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| Subject: Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:20 pm | |
| Nate Diaz isn't your ordinary fighter. Walking in the shadow of his brother Nick and possessing the surname of Diaz within the context of mixed martial arts certainly brings about high expectations, but Nate has lived up to those expectations. He's a scrapper, a survivor, willing to fight anyone, anywhere, anytime, over anything. He fits the mold of a Diaz perfectly with great jiu-jitsu and boxing skills, and he has that unique gameness that only the Diaz brothers embody. He's also inherited family weaknesses, relying on punching prowess and offense over defending counter punches and takedowns. Those weaknesses, however, seem to be disappearing for both himself and his brother, and we may be on the verge of seeing the Diaz name in the spotlight. Success may be on Nate Diaz's doorstep sooner rather than later. In his second performance at welterweight, Diaz looked nearly unstoppable against the aged former boxer Marcus Davis. Battering him from a distance, it became almost comical as the fight went on. Davis had no answer, and his bob and weaving only planted his head on a more steady pedestal for Diaz to punch. After two rounds of action, Diaz seemed content with the damage he had done on the feet, and quickly worked Davis to the floor and submitted him. It was vintage Nick Diaz, but now his brother is putting those skills on display in dominating fashion inside the Octagon. Following the fight, Diaz hinted that he may want to try his hand at battling back at lightweight, probably because he feels he won the bout against Maynard. In retrospect, I also felt Diaz got the better of Maynard slightly, and Diaz certainly presents problems for everyone at lightweight with his reach and improving boxing skills. Unfortunately, he's never been able to crack the upper echelon of the division -- most notably because he couldn't defend the spladle against Joe Stevenson. I suppose the better question is whether or not he can continue his success in the UFC's welterweight division, and if so -- will he stay there in order to attain that success? Marcus Davis doesn't even rank on our USAT/SBN rankings, but I believe Diaz could give guys like Ricardo Almeida, Mike Swick, and countless others scattered throughout the division a run for their money. The problem for Diaz lies in his wrestling defense. Fights aren't five rounds unless they're championship battles, and perhaps he could outlast wrestlers in that format. Unfortunately, guys like Jake Ellenberger and Mike Pierce may prove to be roadblocks. So, where does that leave Nate, a fighter with a lot of potential who's only 25 years old? I think Cesar Gracie's team is solid, but I wouldn't mind seeing the camp bring in powerful top control wrestlers that are a bit beefier for him. His length is a huge advantage when he's on the bottom, and I've been a big fan of the active guard that Diaz can implement. But strength in the top position is a problem for almost any jiu-jitsu fighter, and Diaz is included in that group. Star-divide Furthermore, I'm sure fans will argue that Davis and Markham weren't overly challenging match-ups for him, and perhaps the gun is being jumped as to whether Diaz is actually as good as he's looked against sub-par competition. The losses to Stevenson, Maynard, and Guida point to an entirely different opinion. Fortunately, Nate has a lot of time, and he has one of the best camps in MMA behind him in his progression to become a top fighter. With every performance, he's becoming one of the true fan favorites, and that should, at the very least, earn him solid paydays and great stylistic match-ups. But he can fight at a much higher level, and I expect we'll see some match-ups that will prove whether or not he's improved enough to be a force near the top of one of these divisions. http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/8/31/1660711/options-plentiful-for-nate-diaz | |
| | | captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:35 pm | |
| Nate should stay at 170. He looks so much heathier/stronger, and his reach is still a major strength.
though I would love to see a Nate vs Penn matchup. | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:36 pm | |
| a fight with Joe Luazon would be interesting at 155 | |
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| Subject: Re: Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:40 pm | |
| Diaz vs the Sanchez vs Thiago loser or Condit vs Hardy loser. |
| | | SOKO Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:46 pm | |
| diaz vs hardy would be nice. | |
| | | Birdofthad Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:35 pm | |
| may not like him but his fights are normally entertaining | |
| | | boomer sooner Purple Belt
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| Subject: Re: Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:31 am | |
| He deserves a top ten opponent. His reach was a huge strength at LW, but he wasn't quick enough at that weight. Guys could get in and out. At WW, the reach is still a factor and guys don't make him look slow. | |
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| Subject: Re: Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:34 am | |
| What about Nate vs Hughes? Another Gracie trained fighter for Hughes. A step up for Nate. | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:37 am | |
| I dont think he could take Hughes, Hughes doesn't have too much trouble with jits guys, he'd control him on the ground the whole fight. | |
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| Subject: Re: Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:46 am | |
| - killerofchicken wrote:
- I dont think he could take Hughes, Hughes doesn't have too much trouble with jits guys, he'd control him on the ground the whole fight.
I don't think my boy can take Hughes either...I'm just saying. | |
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| Subject: Re: Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:13 pm | |
| - OUSOONERSOU wrote:
- What about Nate vs Hughes? Another Gracie trained fighter for Hughes. A step up for Nate.
Solid idea | |
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| Subject: Re: Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:29 pm | |
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| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:34 pm | |
| most of the time they get cleared way sooner than this... | |
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| Subject: Re: Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:37 pm | |
| - killerofchicken wrote:
- most of the time they get cleared way sooner than this...
he also said he might have broke his hand, so broke nose and hand isn't good. | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: Options Plentiful for Nate Diaz Following Impressive UFC 118 Performance Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:42 pm | |
| oh yeah, i just remembered about the hand comment in the post fight interview | |
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