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PostSubject: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 11:07 am

16 man Heavyweight Tournament. This is round 1 only so please limit your vote to who you think wins the fights for this round only. Every fight is in the UFC with 3*5min rounds. Every fighter is at their current skill level.

1. Brock Lesnar vs Antonio Silva
2. Fedor Emelianenko vs Gabriel Gonzaga
3. Cain Velasquez vs Fabricio Werdurm
4. Shane Carwin vs Brett Rogers
5. Alistair Overeem vs Junior Dos Santos
6. Frank Mir vs Roy Nelson
7. Big Nog vs Andre Arlovski
8. Randy Couture vs Mirco CroCop



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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 11:08 am

1. Brock Lesnar vs Antonio Silva
2. Fedor Emelianenko vs Gabriel Gonzaga
3. Cain Velasquez vs Fabricio Werdurm
4. Shane Carwin vs Brett Rogers
5. Alistair Overeem vs Junior Dos Santos
6. Frank Mir vs Roy Nelson
7. Big Nog vs Andre Arlovski
8. Randy Couture vs Mirco CroCop
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1. Brock Lesnar vs Antonio Silva
2. Fedor Emelianenko vs Gabriel Gonzaga
3. Cain Velasquez vs Fabricio Werdurm
4. Shane Carwin vs Brett Rogers
5. Alistair Overeem vs Junior Dos Santos
6. Frank Mir vs Roy Nelson
7. Big Nog vs Andre Arlovski
8. Randy Couture vs Mirco CroCop
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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 11:57 am

1.Brock
2.Fedor
3.Cain
4.Carwin
5.Overeem
6.Roy Nelson
7.Big Nog
8.Randy
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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 12:08 pm

1. Brock Lesnar vs Antonio Silva
2. Fedor Emelianenko vs Gabriel Gonzaga
3. Cain Velasquez vs Fabricio Werdurm
4. Shane Carwin vs Brett Rogers
5. Alistair Overeem vs Junior Dos Santos
6. Frank Mir vs Roy Nelson
7. Big Nog vs Andre Arlovski
8. Randy Couture vs Mirco CroCop
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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 12:13 pm

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16 man Heavyweight Tournament. This is round 1 only so please limit your vote to who you think wins the fights for this round only. Every fight is in the UFC with 3*5min rounds. Every fighter is at their current skill level.

1. Brock Lesnar vs Antonio Silva -- Brock takes him down and pounds him out
2. Fedor Emelianenko vs Gabriel Gonzaga -- Fedor abuses GG on the feet
3. Cain Velasquez vs Fabricio Werdurm -- Cain rapes the slow-footed Fabricio
4. Shane Carwin vs Brett Rogers -- Shane takes him to the ground and kills him.
5. Alistair Overeem vs Junior Dos Santos -- Hard to pick. Can't really decide so I went with who is ranked higher.
6. Frank Mir vs Roy Nelson -- Tough fight for Frank, but he outpoints the big lug.
7. Big Nog vs Andre Arlovski -- Not convinced that AA would outbox him. Nog eventually gets him down and subs him.
8. Randy Couture vs Mirco CroCop -- Randy takes him down and grinds out a win.



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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 2:04 pm

1. Brock Lesnar vs Antonio Silva - Silva stuffs most of the takedowns, but scrambles effectively when he is taken down and doesn't fall victim to the trap Mir did, and boxes Lesnar's ears off. Lesnar is still green. This result is literally more likely than a Lesnar win in my mind.
2. Fedor Emelianenko vs Gabriel Gonzaga - Fedor right hand, 78 seconds into the bout.
3. Cain Velasquez vs Fabricio Werdurm - Cain sprawls and brawls effectively for two and a half rounds, but eats a knee, gets rocked, goes for a takedown and gets armbarred in the final two minutes.
4. Shane Carwin vs Brett Rogers - coin-flip fight. If Rogers spawls a couple times and makes Shane have to work, or if he can survive with Shane in his guard, lactic acidosis will do the rest, but if Carwin lands once...Rogers has the much faster hands and similar power. I flipped a coin and Shane wins.
5. Alistair Overeem vs Junior Dos Santos - The Reem's chin gets exposed again. JDS by murder.
6. Frank Mir vs Roy Nelson - Nelson knocks his head off.
7. Big Nog vs Andre Arlovski - AA still out boxes Nog
8. Randy Couture vs Mirco CroCop - CC cuts his head off.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 3:03 pm

Wolfgangsta wrote:
1. Brock Lesnar vs Antonio Silva - Silva stuffs most of the takedowns, but scrambles effectively when he is taken down and doesn't fall victim to the trap Mir did, and boxes Lesnar's ears off. Lesnar is still green. This result is literally more likely than a Lesnar win in my mind.

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1. Brock Lesnar vs Antonio Silva
2. Fedor Emelianenko vs Gabriel Gonzaga
3. Cain Velasquez vs Fabricio Werdurm
4. Shane Carwin vs Brett Rogers
5. Alistair Overeem vs Junior Dos Santos
6. Frank Mir vs Roy Nelson
7. Big Nog vs Andre Arlovski
8. Randy Couture vs Mirco CroCop
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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 3:32 pm

freakzilla316ftw wrote:
16 man Heavyweight Tournament. This is round 1 only so please limit your vote to who you think wins the fights for this round only. Every fight is in the UFC with 3*5min rounds. Every fighter is at their current skill level.

1. Brock Lesnar vs Antonio Silva
2. Fedor Emelianenko vs Gabriel Gonzaga
3. Cain Velasquez vs Fabricio Werdurm
4. Shane Carwin vs Brett Rogers
5. Alistair Overeem vs Junior Dos Santos
6. Frank Mir vs Roy Nelson
7. Big Nog vs Andre Arlovski
8. Randy Couture vs Mirco CroCop

#3 being a hard ass pick for me


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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 3:34 pm

I just don't think Silva could sprawl Brock. I think the only guys that can are probably high level/big HW wrestlers, like Carwin. I will be interested to see if Cain can; my guess is he can sprawl a single, but no way a double.

As for Silva, I question two things specifically to him: chin and punching power. Werdum rocked him several times and of course an out-of-shape Pele KO'd him cold. Those shots from Brock would have sent him into a coma.

Second, I've never really seen him land brutal shots. He seems to get his wins from overwhelming an opponent with strikes rather than one big powerful bomb. If Brock can handle a storm frmo probably the heaviest puncher in MMA in Carwin, then I don't think Silva would scare him that much.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 3:48 pm

Lesnar's wrestling is heavily over valued and it's a surprise to see you boom still buying into the unblockable shot stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 3:58 pm

1. Brock Lesnar vs Antonio Silva
2. Fedor Emelianenko vs Gabriel Gonzaga
3. Cain Velasquez vs Fabricio Werdurm
4. Shane Carwin vs Brett Rogers
5. Alistair Overeem vs Junior Dos Santos
6. Frank Mir vs Roy Nelson
7. Big Nog vs Andre Arlovski
8. Randy Couture vs Mirco CroCop
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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 4:12 pm

1. Brock Lesnar vs Antonio Silva
2. Fedor Emelianenko vs Gabriel Gonzaga
3. Cain Velasquez vs Fabricio Werdurm
4. Shane Carwin vs Brett Rogers
5. Alistair Overeem vs Junior Dos Santos
6. Frank Mir vs Roy Nelson
7. Big Nog vs Andre Arlovski
8. Randy Couture vs Mirco CroCop
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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 4:42 pm

Wolfgangsta wrote:
Lesnar's wrestling is heavily over valued and it's a surprise to see you boom still buying into the unblockable shot stuff.

Well, I don't think it's such a factor due to technique, but rather size and strength. And I do think it's blockable [Carwin didn't have much trouble until he gassed], just not by a guy like Silva. Silva has never seemed terribly athletic to me, but I could be wrong. I really haven't seen him against a big, strong wrestler. A big guy with a good chin and heavy hands could beat Silva in my mind.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyTue Aug 24, 2010 5:04 pm

1. Brock Lesnar vs Antonio Silva - This fight doesn't make it past the midway point of round 1
2. Fedor Emelianenko vs Gabriel Gonzaga - GG gets KTFO in the 2nd
3. Cain Velasquez vs Fabricio Werdurm - A great match that ends in a UD
4. Shane Carwin vs Brett Rogers - Grim gets KTFO in under 2 minutes
5. Alistair Overeem vs Junior Dos Santos - A fight that turns nasty and ends in a 3rd round TKO
6. Frank Mir vs Roy Nelson - A good fight that ends in a split decision
7. Big Nog vs Andre Arlovski - Wins with a last round sub
8. Randy Couture vs Mirco CroCop - CC gets tied up and beaten like a redheaded step-child. TKO 3rd rd.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyWed Aug 25, 2010 12:18 am

Wolf thinks Silva beats Brock. Is there anyone he'd pick Brock to win against?
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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyWed Aug 25, 2010 12:20 am

He'd probably pick him against Randy and Gonzaga. That's about it
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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyWed Aug 25, 2010 12:32 am

freakzilla316ftw wrote:
16 man Heavyweight Tournament. This is round 1 only so please limit your vote to who you think wins the fights for this round only. Every fight is in the UFC with 3*5min rounds. Every fighter is at their current skill level.

1. Brock Lesnar vs Antonio Silva-BROCK
2. Fedor Emelianenko vs Gabriel Gonzaga-FEDOR
3. Cain Velasquez vs Fabricio Werdurm-CAIN
4. Shane Carwin vs Brett Rogers-CARWIN
5. Alistair Overeem vs Junior Dos Santos-JDS
6. Frank Mir vs Roy Nelson-ROY
7. Big Nog vs Andre Arlovski-ARLOVSKI
8. Randy Couture vs Mirco CroCop-RANDY



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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyWed Aug 25, 2010 12:35 am

I am blown the fuck away by all these Couture picks. The dude made Nog look like he was 24 years old in his last fight at HW
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I am blown the fuck away by all these Couture picks. The dude made Nog look like he was 24 years old in his last fight at HW

I don't see Mirko beating Randy is all. Randy would control that fight. He can't do that against Nog like he could CC. I would give Nog a better chance to beat Randy, and CC a better chance to Nog.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyWed Aug 25, 2010 1:50 am

CC doesn't have the clinch game or the ground game Randy has. Yeah he is a very good striker, but I do not imagine Randy wanting to get into that battle.
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I'd pick Brock against Mir. I can safely say that.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote)   Heavyweight Tournament- RD 1 (Please Vote) EmptyWed Aug 25, 2010 8:44 am

Wolf you would pick Buentello against Brock. Too much hate my man.
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No, just not a giant well rounded animal like Silva. Brock's been at this not even 3 years. I wouldn't pick Daniel Cormier over Antonio Silva either.
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Wolf has a more realistic veiw on Brock then just about anyone here.
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