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PostSubject: Re: Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva   Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva - Page 2 EmptyFri Aug 20, 2010 11:32 pm

It's still odd how he accepts a fight with him only after he was knocked out in the second frame.


Overeem is essentially ducking Bigfoot. Overeem will only risk his neck in high profile fights. He couldn't be bothered with dangerous lesser known contenders.
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Just make Fedor vs Overeem already.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva   Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 21, 2010 5:24 am

Let us see. Fedor wants to fight the guy who didn't have the striking ability to KO Werdum and his grappling skill set is several notches below Werdum's? Yeah that sounds a lot like Fedor. A cookie cutter victory.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva   Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 21, 2010 5:32 am

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Let us see. Fedor wants to fight the guy who didn't have the striking ability to KO Werdum and his grappling skill set is several notches below Werdum's? Yeah that sounds a lot like Fedor. A cookie cutter victory.

Lets not forget that Silva couldn't even knockout vulnerable chinned Arlovski.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva   Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 21, 2010 5:52 am

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Let us see. Fedor wants to fight the guy who didn't have the striking ability to KO Werdum and his grappling skill set is several notches below Werdum's? Yeah that sounds a lot like Fedor. A cookie cutter victory.

Lets not forget that Silva couldn't even knockout vulnerable chinned Arlovski.

The best part will be when we have to hear what a legit threat to Fedor he is. How he once killed a bear with his hands or how he once "dazzaled" the entire underground BJJ world with his ginormous win streak over the Graci clan, that they would like to make legit, but it was somehow illegal, so they can't really acknowledge it. I am sure Cap or Wolf the nuthugger will try to conjure images of Silva slowing a runaway train with his brute strength and on and on and on. But the reality is, Fedor is much safer fighting big named scrubs.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva   Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 21, 2010 12:00 pm

Fedor will beat Silva as all of us probably agree on but I want him to just so maybe we get Overeem vs Fedor.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva   Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 21, 2010 12:58 pm

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The best part will be when we have to hear what a legit threat to Fedor he is. How he once killed a bear with his hands or how he once "dazzaled" the entire underground BJJ world with his ginormous win streak over the Graci clan, that they would like to make legit, but it was somehow illegal, so they can't really acknowledge it. I am sure Cap or Wolf the nuthugger will try to conjure images of Silva slowing a runaway train with his brute strength and on and on and on. But the reality is, Fedor is much safer fighting big named scrubs.


Overeem vs Fedor cannot be made with Fedor off the loss. Overeem will only fight Werdum. Overeem was already offered Silva and declined. Silva is the only top ten(fine, at worst top 12 for you) fighter available at this moment.

These are all things you know. You're just carrying on a fake persona. No one buys into your garbage. Everyone sees through it.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva   Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 21, 2010 1:00 pm

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Andrew the Raider King wrote:
Let us see. Fedor wants to fight the guy who didn't have the striking ability to KO Werdum and his grappling skill set is several notches below Werdum's? Yeah that sounds a lot like Fedor. A cookie cutter victory.

Lets not forget that Silva couldn't even knockout vulnerable chinned Arlovski.

Ali, please don't encourage this guy's nincompoopery ok?
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva   Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 21, 2010 1:01 pm

Overeem vs Fedor could easily be made since Werdum is going to be out injured until next year.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva   Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 21, 2010 1:04 pm

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The best part will be when we have to hear what a legit threat to Fedor he is. How he once killed a bear with his hands or how he once "dazzaled" the entire underground BJJ world with his ginormous win streak over the Graci clan, that they would like to make legit, but it was somehow illegal, so they can't really acknowledge it. I am sure Cap or Wolf the nuthugger will try to conjure images of Silva slowing a runaway train with his brute strength and on and on and on. But the reality is, Fedor is much safer fighting big named scrubs.


Overeem vs Fedor cannot be made with Fedor off the loss. Overeem will only fight Werdum. Overeem was already offered Silva and declined. Silva is the only top ten(fine, at worst top 12 for you) fighter available at this moment.

These are all things you know. You're just carrying on a fake persona. No one buys into your garbage. Everyone sees through it.

Where in the rulebook does it say Fedor can't get a title shot coming off a loss? This is SF, not UFC.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva   Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 21, 2010 1:10 pm

This has been explained already. BBC stop feeding into this dumbfuckery. Fedor is on the last fight of his deal(a deal with no champion clause. ) With the heat the promotion already got for giving Rogers a shot after the loss to Fedor it would be promotional malpractice to offer a fighter, even Fedor, a title shot with the ability to win the title and leave the promotion for the UFC.

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As a fan I want to see the best fights made, I care not for the politics of businessmen. Overeem vs Fedor is still an attractive,intriguing fight regardless of the submission loss to Werdum.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva   Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 21, 2010 1:24 pm

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As a fan I want to see the best fights made, I care not for the politics of businessmen. Overeem vs Fedor is still an attractive,intriguing fight regardless of the submission loss to Werdum.

I can agree on that, but especially with your boxing background, you should be able to accept and understand the complexities of fight promotion without feeding into mentalities that blame the fighters for the promoter's limitation.

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PostSubject: Re: Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva   Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 21, 2010 1:28 pm

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This has been explained already. BBC stop feeding into this dumbfuckery. Fedor is on the last fight of his deal(a deal with no champion clause. ) With the heat the promotion already got for giving Rogers a shot after the loss to Fedor it would be promotional malpractice to offer a fighter, even Fedor, a title shot with the ability to win the title and leave the promotion for the UFC.

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News from Fedor says he wants to extend his contract though. I see what you mean and agree if he isn't going to do that.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva   Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 21, 2010 1:33 pm

Strikeforce understands they can't keep giving HW title fights to guys coming off losses, even Fedor. They don't want to give Dana White that soap box.
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This has been explained already. BBC stop feeding into this dumbfuckery. Fedor is on the last fight of his deal(a deal with no champion clause. ) With the heat the promotion already got for giving Rogers a shot after the loss to Fedor it would be promotional malpractice to offer a fighter, even Fedor, a title shot with the ability to win the title and leave the promotion for the UFC.

This thread is rapidly declining.


News from Fedor says he wants to extend his contract though. I see what you mean and agree if he isn't going to do that.

and if he resigns with Sf, fights and beats Silva, then an Overeem matchup will still be there. Not sure what the rush is. Dude is coming off a loss, he, like Rogers b4 him, should not be getting a title shot.
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As a fan I want to see the best fights made, I care not for the politics of businessmen. Overeem vs Fedor is still an attractive,intriguing fight regardless of the submission loss to Werdum.

I can agree on that, but especially with your boxing background, you should be able to accept and understand the complexities of fight promotion without feeding into mentalities that blame the fighters for the promoter's limitation.


I understand the reason as to why Strikeforce are reluctant to make that fight happen, but it's their own fault, Fedor vs Overeem should have happened right after the Rodgers knockout.
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva   Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 21, 2010 1:44 pm

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Let us see. Fedor wants to fight the guy who didn't have the striking ability to KO Werdum and his grappling skill set is several notches below Werdum's? Yeah that sounds a lot like Fedor. A cookie cutter victory.

Lets not forget that Silva couldn't even knockout vulnerable chinned Arlovski.

The best part will be when we have to hear what a legit threat to Fedor he is. How he once killed a bear with his hands or how he once "dazzaled" the entire underground BJJ world with his ginormous win streak over the Graci clan, that they would like to make legit, but it was somehow illegal, so they can't really acknowledge it. I am sure Cap or Wolf the nuthugger will try to conjure images of Silva slowing a runaway train with his brute strength and on and on and on. But the reality is, Fedor is much safer fighting big named scrubs.

I ain't talking talking about Silva vs a Bear. Im not talking about Silva stopping a train. I'm talking MMA. your the guy posting garbage.

Would Fedor be the favorite? sure. Is it a total gimme? no not at all. Silva is a legit heavy. Certainly as legit as a gonzaga type, who has served as a gatekeeper for many UFC contedors.
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As a fan I want to see the best fights made, I care not for the politics of businessmen. Overeem vs Fedor is still an attractive,intriguing fight regardless of the submission loss to Werdum.

I can agree on that, but especially with your boxing background, you should be able to accept and understand the complexities of fight promotion without feeding into mentalities that blame the fighters for the promoter's limitation.


I understand the reason as to why Strikeforce are reluctant to make that fight happen, but it's their own fault, Fedor vs Overeem should have happened right after the Rodgers knockout.


Not SF's fault at all. U can bet they wanted Fedor Overeem from the beginning. It was M-1's fault.
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As a fan I want to see the best fights made, I care not for the politics of businessmen. Overeem vs Fedor is still an attractive,intriguing fight regardless of the submission loss to Werdum.

I can agree on that, but especially with your boxing background, you should be able to accept and understand the complexities of fight promotion without feeding into mentalities that blame the fighters for the promoter's limitation.


I understand the reason as to why Strikeforce are reluctant to make that fight happen, but it's their own fault, Fedor vs Overeem should have happened right after the Rodgers knockout.


Not SF's fault at all. U can bet they wanted Fedor Overeem from the beginning. It was M-1's fault.

But did Coker really try hard enough to make the fight happen ?
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PostSubject: Re: Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva   Fedor considering December fight with Bigfoot Silva - Page 2 EmptySat Aug 21, 2010 1:49 pm

Why would coker rather have Rogers, as opposed to Fedor, fight for the title?

As far as trying hard enough? I have no clue as to what wen on behind he scenes.
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Not M-1's fault either. Overeem wasn't established before he defeated Rogers as a real contender, Strikeforce trinket or not. This is Overeem's fault, but if we have to blame Strikeforce I'd blame them for keeping Overeem around at all when he is only interested in being a part time Strikeforce champion.
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Overeem contractually couldn't fight for SF at the time Fedor was available.
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Nor could Fedor contractually fight someone who could beat him, but it has happened...
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