The Muggers

These are the guys that....well.......flat out mugged you.

Sonny Liston - Sonny flat out came out and unleashed hell on you, he didnt care what round it was he was just going to batter you.

Johnny Tapia - I think of Larry Holmes great quote when I watch Johnny Tapia "Its just you and me in the ring, no bullshit, and you cant call the cops."

Ricardo Mayorga - The epiphany of a mugger, this guy just mauled you into a knockout.

Mike Tyson - mugger and a rapist , in the ring as well as out!!!

George Foreman - the prime George just came out and spanked your ass. Looked like a back alley beat down.

Tony Galento - think this is the only style the guy knew.

your adds

Who are the modern muggers Bird?
Angulo
Margo
Who else?

Marciano
Frazier
Hamsho
Fletcher
Braxton
Dempsey

good adds winston ohh I really like Braxton and the other adds

I would add Kirkland to the modern list Sooners, Darchinyan was for a while

Birdofthad wrote:

good adds winston ohh I really like Braxton and the other adds

I would add Kirkland to the modern list Sooners, Darchinyan was for a while

Fuck yeah Kirkland

Jeff Lacy was one of those guys too.

Jim Jeffries let you mug him and then mugged you.

Jack Dempsey mugged even muggers like Firpo!

Paul Berlenbach was also a champion wrestler. Great lead in to being a mugger!

Juan Urango is only a decent fighter. But he is a mugger's mugger.

Carmen Basilio might have been the best all-around mugger.

Doesn't Homicide Hank fit into this category?

Beibut Shumenov is an up and coming mugger isn't he?

My only quarrel with your list is Johnny Tapia. Awfully skilled and good at distance to be labelled a mugger. Don't get me wrong, Johnny had educated shoulders and elbows and knew all the tricks, but man he was highly skilled.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Jim Jeffries let you mug him and then mugged you.

Jack Dempsey mugged even muggers like Firpo!

Paul Berlenbach was also a champion wrestler. Great lead in to being a mugger!

Juan Urango is only a decent fighter. But he is a mugger's mugger.

Carmen Basilio might have been the best all-around mugger.

Doesn't Homicide Hank fit into this category?

Beibut Shumenov is an up and coming mugger isn't he?

My only quarrel with your list is Johnny Tapia. Awfully skilled and good at distance to be labelled a mugger. Don't get me wrong, Johnny had educated shoulders and elbows and knew all the tricks, but man he was highly skilled.

Great adds I forgot about Urango. BTW did you get my PM?

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Jim Jeffries let you mug him and then mugged you.

Jack Dempsey mugged even muggers like Firpo!

Paul Berlenbach was also a champion wrestler. Great lead in to being a mugger!

Juan Urango is only a decent fighter. But he is a mugger's mugger.

Carmen Basilio might have been the best all-around mugger.

Doesn't Homicide Hank fit into this category?

Beibut Shumenov is an up and coming mugger isn't he?

My only quarrel with your list is Johnny Tapia. Awfully skilled and good at distance to be labelled a mugger. Don't get me wrong, Johnny had educated shoulders and elbows and knew all the tricks, but man he was highly skilled.

Great adds I forgot about Urango. BTW did you get my PM?

Come on! You KNOW that's like telling me Selma Hayek is behind a door and telling me not to open it! I'm off!

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Jim Jeffries let you mug him and then mugged you.

Jack Dempsey mugged even muggers like Firpo!

Paul Berlenbach was also a champion wrestler. Great lead in to being a mugger!

Juan Urango is only a decent fighter. But he is a mugger's mugger.

Carmen Basilio might have been the best all-around mugger.

Doesn't Homicide Hank fit into this category?

Beibut Shumenov is an up and coming mugger isn't he?

My only quarrel with your list is Johnny Tapia. Awfully skilled and good at distance to be labelled a mugger. Don't get me wrong, Johnny had educated shoulders and elbows and knew all the tricks, but man he was highly skilled.

Great adds I forgot about Urango. BTW did you get my PM?

Come on! You KNOW that's like telling me Selma Hayek is behind a door and telling me not to open it! I'm off!

Did you guys here that huge pop? That was Marbles head. LOL

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Jim Jeffries let you mug him and then mugged you.

Jack Dempsey mugged even muggers like Firpo!

Paul Berlenbach was also a champion wrestler. Great lead in to being a mugger!

Juan Urango is only a decent fighter. But he is a mugger's mugger.

Carmen Basilio might have been the best all-around mugger.

Doesn't Homicide Hank fit into this category?

Beibut Shumenov is an up and coming mugger isn't he?

My only quarrel with your list is Johnny Tapia. Awfully skilled and good at distance to be labelled a mugger. Don't get me wrong, Johnny had educated shoulders and elbows and knew all the tricks, but man he was highly skilled.

Great adds I forgot about Urango. BTW did you get my PM?

Come on! You KNOW that's like telling me Selma Hayek is behind a door and telling me not to open it! I'm off!

Did you guys here that huge pop? That was Marbles head. LOL

Nah, just another clueless guy who thinks all sports work in the same way so therefore today's guys MUST be better.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Jim Jeffries let you mug him and then mugged you.

Jack Dempsey mugged even muggers like Firpo!

Paul Berlenbach was also a champion wrestler. Great lead in to being a mugger!

Juan Urango is only a decent fighter. But he is a mugger's mugger.

Carmen Basilio might have been the best all-around mugger.

Doesn't Homicide Hank fit into this category?

Beibut Shumenov is an up and coming mugger isn't he?

My only quarrel with your list is Johnny Tapia. Awfully skilled and good at distance to be labelled a mugger. Don't get me wrong, Johnny had educated shoulders and elbows and knew all the tricks, but man he was highly skilled.

Great adds I forgot about Urango. BTW did you get my PM?

Come on! You KNOW that's like telling me Selma Hayek is behind a door and telling me not to open it! I'm off!

Did you guys here that huge pop? That was Marbles head. LOL

Nah, just another clueless guy who thinks all sports work in the same way so therefore today's guys MUST be better.

Hey I am one of those guys. It was a little weird that I was arguing on the other side of that one. I kept saying WTF?

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Jim Jeffries let you mug him and then mugged you.

Jack Dempsey mugged even muggers like Firpo!

Paul Berlenbach was also a champion wrestler. Great lead in to being a mugger!

Juan Urango is only a decent fighter. But he is a mugger's mugger.

Carmen Basilio might have been the best all-around mugger.

Doesn't Homicide Hank fit into this category?

Beibut Shumenov is an up and coming mugger isn't he?

My only quarrel with your list is Johnny Tapia. Awfully skilled and good at distance to be labelled a mugger. Don't get me wrong, Johnny had educated shoulders and elbows and knew all the tricks, but man he was highly skilled.

Great adds I forgot about Urango. BTW did you get my PM?

Come on! You KNOW that's like telling me Selma Hayek is behind a door and telling me not to open it! I'm off!

Did you guys here that huge pop? That was Marbles head. LOL

Nah, just another clueless guy who thinks all sports work in the same way so therefore today's guys MUST be better.

Hey I am one of those guys. It was a little weird that I was arguing on the other side of that one. I kept saying WTF?

Yeah but cluelessness from you I expect

If you believe the following, football, basketball, hockey, tennis etc athletes are better today do to MORE competition, MORE resources being poured into the sports, MORE worldwide attention and better technology? It is impossible to then to argue boxing, which has fewer resources, less attention, not real technological changes and lesser competition in terms of numbers of fighters and additional divisions is better for those same reasons.

I think the other error folks make is they believe ALL knowledge is cumulative. It isn't. We lose expertises all the time as the world changes. Tough to believe we, on the whole, are better horsemen or bowmen or blacksmiths or outdoorsmen or fortran designers or wind sailors or pyramid builders than we were in the past isn't it?

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Jim Jeffries let you mug him and then mugged you.

Jack Dempsey mugged even muggers like Firpo!

Paul Berlenbach was also a champion wrestler. Great lead in to being a mugger!

Juan Urango is only a decent fighter. But he is a mugger's mugger.

Carmen Basilio might have been the best all-around mugger.

Doesn't Homicide Hank fit into this category?

Beibut Shumenov is an up and coming mugger isn't he?

My only quarrel with your list is Johnny Tapia. Awfully skilled and good at distance to be labelled a mugger. Don't get me wrong, Johnny had educated shoulders and elbows and knew all the tricks, but man he was highly skilled.

Great adds I forgot about Urango. BTW did you get my PM?

Come on! You KNOW that's like telling me Selma Hayek is behind a door and telling me not to open it! I'm off!

Did you guys here that huge pop? That was Marbles head. LOL

Nah, just another clueless guy who thinks all sports work in the same way so therefore today's guys MUST be better.

Hey I am one of those guys. It was a little weird that I was arguing on the other side of that one. I kept saying WTF?

Yeah but cluelessness from you I expect

If you believe the following, football, basketball, hockey, tennis etc athletes are better today do to MORE competition, MORE resources being poured into the sports, MORE worldwide attention and better technology? It is impossible to then to argue boxing, which has fewer resources, less attention, not real technological changes and lesser competition in terms of numbers of fighters and additional divisions is better for those same reasons.

I think the other error folks make is they believe ALL knowledge is cumulative. It isn't. We lose expertises all the time as the world changes. Tough to believe we, on the whole, are better horsemen or bowmen or blacksmiths or outdoorsmen or fortran designers or wind sailors or pyramid builders than we were in the past isn't it?

You are correct. But is boxing one of those. That remains to be seen. There are still some old guys out there teaching the young ones how to box.

After watching last night's fight,I kept thinking to myself how a young Dwight Braxton would have destroyed either one.The guy was an animal!

WinstonSmith wrote:

After watching last night's fight,I kept thinking to myself how a young Dwight Braxton would have destroyed either one.The guy was an animal!

Waddya mean either one? They could have tried tag teaming and he'd have buried them both in six rounds!

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Jim Jeffries let you mug him and then mugged you.

Jack Dempsey mugged even muggers like Firpo!

Paul Berlenbach was also a champion wrestler. Great lead in to being a mugger!

Juan Urango is only a decent fighter. But he is a mugger's mugger.

Carmen Basilio might have been the best all-around mugger.

Doesn't Homicide Hank fit into this category?

Beibut Shumenov is an up and coming mugger isn't he?

My only quarrel with your list is Johnny Tapia. Awfully skilled and good at distance to be labelled a mugger. Don't get me wrong, Johnny had educated shoulders and elbows and knew all the tricks, but man he was highly skilled.

Great adds I forgot about Urango. BTW did you get my PM?

Come on! You KNOW that's like telling me Selma Hayek is behind a door and telling me not to open it! I'm off!

Did you guys here that huge pop? That was Marbles head. LOL

Nah, just another clueless guy who thinks all sports work in the same way so therefore today's guys MUST be better.

Hey I am one of those guys. It was a little weird that I was arguing on the other side of that one. I kept saying WTF?

Yeah but cluelessness from you I expect

If you believe the following, football, basketball, hockey, tennis etc athletes are better today do to MORE competition, MORE resources being poured into the sports, MORE worldwide attention and better technology? It is impossible to then to argue boxing, which has fewer resources, less attention, not real technological changes and lesser competition in terms of numbers of fighters and additional divisions is better for those same reasons.

I think the other error folks make is they believe ALL knowledge is cumulative. It isn't. We lose expertises all the time as the world changes. Tough to believe we, on the whole, are better horsemen or bowmen or blacksmiths or outdoorsmen or fortran designers or wind sailors or pyramid builders than we were in the past isn't it?

You are correct. But is boxing one of those. That remains to be seen. There are still some old guys out there teaching the young ones how to box.

Manny Steward Freddie Roach and Teddy Atlas think so.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

WinstonSmith wrote:

After watching last night's fight,I kept thinking to myself how a young Dwight Braxton would have destroyed either one.The guy was an animal!

Waddya mean either one? They could have tried tag teaming and he'd have buried them both in six rounds!

Yup.Remember the first Holyfield-Qawi fight?Those were two guys who left it all on the line.Damn,I miss the 80's!

WinstonSmith wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

WinstonSmith wrote:

After watching last night's fight,I kept thinking to myself how a young Dwight Braxton would have destroyed either one.The guy was an animal!

Waddya mean either one? They could have tried tag teaming and he'd have buried them both in six rounds!

Yup.Remember the first Holyfield-Qawi fight?Those were two guys who left it all on the line.Damn,I miss the 80's!

Qawi was a scary dude. First time I saw him he wrecked one of my favorites Matthew Saad Muhammad. Took me a while to warm up to him.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Jim Jeffries let you mug him and then mugged you.

Jack Dempsey mugged even muggers like Firpo!

Paul Berlenbach was also a champion wrestler. Great lead in to being a mugger!

Juan Urango is only a decent fighter. But he is a mugger's mugger.

Carmen Basilio might have been the best all-around mugger.

Doesn't Homicide Hank fit into this category?

Beibut Shumenov is an up and coming mugger isn't he?

My only quarrel with your list is Johnny Tapia. Awfully skilled and good at distance to be labelled a mugger. Don't get me wrong, Johnny had educated shoulders and elbows and knew all the tricks, but man he was highly skilled.

great list and doh im an idiot for leaving Armstrong off

reason i added Tapia was mainly for how he loved to nail you then talk shit, he jsut seemed like he loved the fact that beating someone up in the ring was legal

He was one of the few fighters who actually scared me.Had he started his career at an earlier age,he could have been one of the all-time greats.

man Brazton was a beast he was what 5'7 and mean as shit

gave Holyfield all he could handle gotta love the guy

great point winston he started late as well

i stull think he is one of the best cruisers ever if not the best cause i can argue he was past it vs Holyfield

Birdofthad wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Jim Jeffries let you mug him and then mugged you.

Jack Dempsey mugged even muggers like Firpo!

Paul Berlenbach was also a champion wrestler. Great lead in to being a mugger!

Juan Urango is only a decent fighter. But he is a mugger's mugger.

Carmen Basilio might have been the best all-around mugger.

Doesn't Homicide Hank fit into this category?

Beibut Shumenov is an up and coming mugger isn't he?

My only quarrel with your list is Johnny Tapia. Awfully skilled and good at distance to be labelled a mugger. Don't get me wrong, Johnny had educated shoulders and elbows and knew all the tricks, but man he was highly skilled.

great list and doh im an idiot for leaving Armstrong off

reason i added Tapia was mainly for how he loved to nail you then talk shit, he jsut seemed like he loved the fact that beating someone up in the ring was legal

ABSOLUTELY!

Birdofthad wrote:

man Brazton was a beast he was what 5'7 and mean as shit

gave Holyfield all he could handle gotta love the guy

He was more like 5-5 and a scoche.

Birdofthad wrote:

great point winston he started late as well

i stull think he is one of the best cruisers ever if not the best cause i can argue he was past it vs Holyfield

He also gave Spinks all that he could handle.I believe he was in his mid-thirties when he fought Holyfield the first time.Hard to believe he packed on 190lbs. on his 5'7" frame.