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 Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall?

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PostSubject: Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall?   Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall? EmptyWed Aug 04, 2010 12:52 pm

Pellulo and Arum are discussing it and pitching it to HBO

HBO doesnt have anything on their fall schedule, would be a great match up

I'd take Pirog over Pavlik
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PostSubject: Re: Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall?   Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall? EmptyWed Aug 04, 2010 1:46 pm

gomez1012 wrote:
Pellulo and Arum are discussing it and pitching it to HBO

HBO doesnt have anything on their fall schedule, would be a great match up

I'd take Pirog over Pavlik
man this is tough. i like pirog but i also want pavlik to het back on a winning note. but am i crazy. didn't pavlik say he couldn't make 160 anymore???
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PostSubject: Re: Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall?   Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall? EmptyWed Aug 04, 2010 1:55 pm

I'm not sure based upon watching one fight how good The Pirogi Man really is.

Of course I'm pretty sure Kelly hasn't improved so...........
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PostSubject: Re: Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall?   Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall? EmptyWed Aug 04, 2010 1:56 pm

He did but I guess now he'll have a nutritionist during camp telling him not to drink a 12 pak of PBR after his workout

Im sure they figured MW was his best shot to stay relevant, probably in over his head at 168
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PostSubject: Re: Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall?   Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall? EmptyWed Aug 04, 2010 2:37 pm

It would be the Martinez fight all over again.
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PostSubject: Re: Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall?   Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall? EmptyWed Aug 04, 2010 7:13 pm

He turns down a shot at the middleweight champ in favour of a worthless trinket...
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PostSubject: Re: Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall?   Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall? EmptyWed Aug 04, 2010 7:47 pm

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He turns down a shot at the middleweight champ in favour of a worthless trinket...

I think at the time Kelly was figuring out his future options. He wasn't sure if he could still make 160lb when he had the rematch option available, obviously Kelly and his team are convinced with the proper help he can still make 160lb.

At this stage Kelly needs a huge confidence boost rather than another tough fight with an elite Middleweight.
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PostSubject: Re: Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall?   Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall? EmptyWed Aug 04, 2010 8:20 pm

By the sounds of some of you guys you would think Pirog is Marvin Hagler.

He beat an unproven prospect. Relax.
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PostSubject: Re: Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall?   Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall? EmptyWed Aug 04, 2010 8:26 pm

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By the sounds of some of you guys you would think Pirog is Marvin Hagler.

He beat an unproven prospect. Relax.
i agree to a certain extent. like i said i want pavlik getting back to contention but not at the expense of pirog.
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PostSubject: Re: Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall?   Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall? EmptyWed Aug 04, 2010 8:37 pm

NBrooks5 wrote:
By the sounds of some of you guys you would think Pirog is Marvin Hagler.

He beat an unproven prospect. Relax.

You're right people are getting way too carried away with Pirog, he only beat Danny Jacobs.
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PostSubject: Re: Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall?   Pirog vs Pavlik on HBO this fall? EmptyWed Aug 04, 2010 8:49 pm

People are getting a little carried away with Pirog. Beating Jacobs doesn't mean that much to me. We will find out how good he is in his next few fights.


People are getting a little down on Pavlik. It will be just like the Martinez fight. Martinez has some amazing feet and his handspeed is pretty darn good. Martinez struggled with Pavlik for about 8 rounds. Fight was even when the cut occurred. If Pavlik had a legit cutman who could have done something to stop it, then maybe the last 4 rounds wouldn't have been him in survival mode.

Pirog seemed to move pretty well, his handspeed seemed decent, he is awkward, but I don't see a parallel between his fighting style and the ultra fast feet and fast hands of martinez.
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