Standards for the Immortals section

If we are going IMMORTALS may I suggest we expand #1 so that one must have been THE MAN for an extended peiord and change #2 from 12 to say 17?

so that leaves out a boxing icon who was champ for 4 years and beat a dozen ranked guys like rocky marciano for example..noo one ever is going to convince me that at 180-185 pounds hes not an imortal..we have to have fleaxabilty here..what rankings..ring..well out goes guys like langford johnson maybe attell gans or even dempsey for example since rankings came after there career was over or mostley over..

dmar5143 wrote:

so that leaves out a boxing icon who was champ for 4 years and beat a dozen ranked guys like rocky marciano for example..noo one ever is going to convince me that at 180-185 pounds hes not an imortal..we have to have fleaxabilty here..what rankings..ring..well out goes guys like langford johnson maybe attell gans or even dempsey for example since rankings came after there career was over or mostley over..

Am I missing something? I don't think it does leave out the Rock. Ah you're worried about the 17, hmmmmm. As for pre-Ring ratings, we'll have to guess, but I think we can do that don't you?

tunney dont qualify cause he was champ for 2 fights..judgement is a good factor as criteria i think..having it written in stone im not to sure..

dmar5143 wrote:

so that leaves out a boxing icon who was champ for 4 years and beat a dozen ranked guys like rocky marciano for example..noo one ever is going to convince me that at 180-185 pounds hes not an imortal..we have to have fleaxabilty here..what rankings..ring..well out goes guys like langford johnson maybe attell gans or even dempsey for example since rankings came after there career was over or mostley over..

So what are you suggesting? I can change it nothing is set in stone yet.

dmar5143 wrote:

tunney dont qualify cause he was champ for 2 fights..judgement is a good factor as criteria i think..having it written in stone im not to sure..

ATunney was recognized at the LHW champ for a bunch of fights wasn't he?

i agree marble we can guess intelligently noo doubt.

nope he was american LH champ not world..its a strap.

What about what I wrote? Does that take care of your concearn Dmar?

dmar5143 wrote:

nope he was american LH champ not world..its a strap.

You're right, it went Siki, Berlenbach, McTigue and Delaney

soonermark890 wrote:

What about what I wrote? Does that take care of your concearn Dmar?

Works for me!

sooner i think guidelines are ok maybe but we have to leave room for a langford who never was a champ and still could be under consideration..i agree with some things marble said..a fighter who ducks 3 or more fighters is out.for example..or what frank said..a dominate guy who beat no great fighters and in a weak era..the klitckos are out for example..we all have good judgement and can present reasons yes or no before a vote..noninate guys from each 20 year period and vote one on one maybe after a disgussion..i dont know what else to say..the idea is fantastic..

dmar5143 wrote:

sooner i think guidelines are ok maybe but we have to leave room for a langford who never was a champ and still could be under consideration..i agree with some things marble said..a fighter who ducks 3 or more fighters is out.for example..or what frank said..a dominate guy who beat no great fighters and in a weak era..the klitckos are out for example..we all have good judgement and can present reasons yes or no before a vote..noninate guys from each 20 year period and vote one on one maybe after a disgussion..i dont know what else to say..the idea is fantastic..

Sounds good I put that exception rule in there for this. You guys can start it I will be on in a couple of hours I am off to do your workout.

I'm really trying to multi - task to keep up with you guys. Is there a list yet?

4445Frank wrote:

I'm really trying to multi - task to keep up with you guys. Is there a list yet?

No you guys can start with 1900-1920 if you want. They decided to do it that way I think.

ok sooner from 1900-20 ill nominate the following to be considered.jimmy wilde barbados walcott sam langford terry mcgovern harry greb johnny dundee stanley ketchel joe gans jim jeffries jack johnson jack dempsey abe attel ..some fighters overlapped a lot into the late 20s so ill nominate them from 1921 -1940..thats my list for consideration.

1900 - 20: Sam Langford, Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney, Benny Leonard, Stanley Ketchel. These are my picks for this time zone.

frrank benny leonard is one of the guys i was thinking that overlapped..i was going to put him in 1921-40 but 1900-1920 hes good for that also..tunney for sure 1921 -1940..for me anyway..good choices.

Look in the sticky section. I've done just a little work.

dmar5143 wrote:

frrank benny leonard is one of the guys i was thinking that overlapped..i was going to put him in 1921-40 but 1900-1920 hes good for that also..tunney for sure 1921 -1940..for me anyway..good choices.

thanks dmar. I was wondering about it but I think those are really great fighters.