I can't stand...

I can't stand Amir Khan.

Jacked from Canvas:

Khan said: “Márquez looked strong and sharp. I still want to fight him. He’s a legend. I know people think I’m stupid to fight someone with so much experience, but I want tough fights against big names. I am now relying on Golden Boy Promotions to make this fight for December.”

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29746

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxingandmma/amir-khan/7921201/Amir-Khan-wants-double-world-champion-Juan-Manuel-Marquez-to-be-his-next-opponent.html


No Amir, no one thinks you're stupid. We think you're a pussy who talks shit. I feel like every famous person needs someone on staff to keep it real with them. I almost want to make a twitter account just to bait him. I will say that if he takes the fight at 135 I'll shut up about it.

I would love to see JMM shut that glass jawed, maniac driver up.

Khan is too big and fast for Marquez at this point. I think he takes him but I hope I'm wrong.

I don't see what's so offensive or wrong with Khan's statement.

of course you don't Ali

I was confused as to why it was Diaz and not Khan taking on Marquez. Neither fight is that big or (in my opinion) worthy of PPV, however Khan and Marquez would've been a much more interesting fight no matter what the result.

Canvas wrote:

of course you don't Ali

LMAO

Canvas wrote:

of course you don't Ali

Oh I am sorry I guess wanting to face a future Hall Of Famer who happens to be current Lightweight champion is a crime.

soonermark890 wrote:

Canvas wrote:

of course you don't Ali

LMAO

Allan Green didn't even win a round against Andre Ward.

Ali_1748 wrote:

I don't see what's so offensive or wrong with Khan's statement.

Well count me in, cuz I don't either. Sounds to me like a guy trying to make a big fight. Isn't that a good thing?

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

I don't see what's so offensive or wrong with Khan's statement.

Well count me in, cuz I don't either. Sounds to me like a guy trying to make a big fight. Isn't that a good thing?

For some reason Khan can do no right in certain peoples eyes.

I just realized Khan and Jacobs are the same age.

Khan is twice the size of JMM. Khan will end up at 147 or even 154. There are other large fights that are easily made for Khan, but they involve more risk.

I'm tired of Khan's talk.

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

I don't see what's so offensive or wrong with Khan's statement.

Well count me in, cuz I don't either. Sounds to me like a guy trying to make a big fight. Isn't that a good thing?

For some reason Khan can do no right in certain peoples eyes.

He's trying to make a fight against another undersized Mexican Legend. He has Barrera. Now he wants Marquez. Who will be next Morales?

Maybe he should have gone the Hamed-Hatton route instead and kept his punk ass on the other side of the pond.

^^^ +1

It may be a big fight, but Khan will brutalize JMM. Khan and his team think so as well. That's why they pushed to make the fight right after JMM lost to Floyd. Now they're pushing again. It's cherry picking and resume padding.

It would be fine if Khan didn't run his mouth about how he's the best in the division and would drop everyone at 140. Or if he takes the fight at 135 in Mexico. But that won't happen and he has a long list of worthy challengers to his belt including his mandatory in Maidana.

To the specific point of the quote: he's saying he's looking for tough fights. Yet taking on an aging, undersized fighter who matches up perfectly for him isn't really seeking out challenges. He's also trying to imply that he's the underdog in the fight and making a big risk to challenge Marquez. When the general consensus is he'll be a huge favorite and dictate the stipulations of the fight. It's disingenuous.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

I don't see what's so offensive or wrong with Khan's statement.

Well count me in, cuz I don't either. Sounds to me like a guy trying to make a big fight. Isn't that a good thing?

Against a guy who came in 2 pounds under the lightweight limit on friday. A guy who when he came in at 142 against Floyd looked like shit. Yes i know Floyd had something to do with it but Marquez has no business fighting above lightweight.

Also after the Paulie fight Khan called for Maidana, Bradley, and Alexander. Now he wants an aging lightweight. I agree with NBrooks. Khan should have stayed his ass across the pond for that.

Ali_1748 wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Canvas wrote:

of course you don't Ali

LMAO

Allan Green didn't even win a round against Andre Ward.

At least he fights someone not just talks about it.

It's obvious to me that Schaefer wants to cash out 37 year old JMM to put Khan over (to borrow a pro wrestling term).

Schaefer dangling the carrot of a possible PacBoy fight for JMM if he were to defeat Khan, along with his recent 'we won't beg, there are other options' comments regarding JMM's desire to fight PacBoy are very transparent.

JMM would be badly outgunned against Khan, and GBP knows it. So does Khan.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29740

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29799

Gumby wrote:

It may be a big fight, but Khan will brutalize JMM. Khan and his team think so as well. That's why they pushed to make the fight right after JMM lost to Floyd. Now they're pushing again. It's cherry picking and resume padding.

It would be fine if Khan didn't run his mouth about how he's the best in the division and would drop everyone at 140. Or if he takes the fight at 135 in Mexico. But that won't happen and he has a long list of worthy challengers to his belt including his mandatory in Maidana.

To the specific point of the quote: he's saying he's looking for tough fights. Yet taking on an aging, undersized fighter who matches up perfectly for him isn't really seeking out challenges. He's also trying to imply that he's the underdog in the fight and making a big risk to challenge Marquez. When the general consensus is he'll be a huge favorite and dictate the stipulations of the fight. It's disingenuous.

Believe me, I understand your argument and it's a good one. However, don't under estimate Marquez. If you'd like to understand this guy better, check out the career of Jose Luis Ramirez. He was outclassed by exceptional boxers in his weight class, but fought great fights against world class punchers aka Edwin Rosario and gave Julio Chavez all he could handle. Khan is not exactly a moving target and Marquez prides himself on how much punishment he can take. Big difference between Khan and Floyd. If the match up is made, I'll have to say this is the one time Freddie Roach may be in for a surprise. From personal experience, I've noticed that Mexican warriors ( I don't consider Antonio M. any kind of a warrior) are able to bounce back from defeats like the one suffered by Marquez. I have to think that unless they are knocked out or stopped, they really don't consider it a loss. I think they look at the sport differently. You want to end the career of an exceptionally talanted Mexican fighter? See Tommy Hearns vs. Pipino Cuevas.

kahn is trying to make a big fight..nothing wrong with that.his options are limited now that alexanders fighting soon and a bradley-alexander fight for jan seems to be a reality..his options look like maidina for one and yep judah two..everyone complaing that JMM to small..one 5 lb division..please..a fight between a little smaller great fighter against a good bigger fighter has been done for 100 years without any fans crying..the old pro vs the young talent..its been done countless times.
if kahn is pushing for that fight JMM has negotiating options.the best one is yes lets do the fight at 140 under the condition the weigh in is noon to 1 pm the day of the fight..
there should be no problems with that..say yes we got a fight say no im fighting the best lightweights then..

dmar5143 wrote:

kahn is trying to make a big fight..nothing wrong with that.his options are limited now that alexanders fighting soon and a bradley-alexander fight for jan seems to be a reality..his options look like maidina for one and yep judah two..everyone complaing that JMM to small..one 5 lb division..please..a fight between a little smaller great fighter against a good bigger fighter has been done for 100 years without any fans crying..the old pro vs the young talent..its been done countless times.
if kahn is pushing for that fight JMM has negotiating options.the best one is yes lets do the fight at 140 under the condition the weigh in is noon to 1 pm the day of the fight..
there should be no problems with that..say yes we got a fight say no im fighting the best lightweights then..

JMM competes at 135 at 37. This is not his prime weight. Amir Khan is 23 and competes 140 and will surely move up before is career is finished. If they were both around the same age I wouldn't have a problem with this. Khan also has three inches in height and four inches in reach. If you retort with the argument that "this has always happened in boxing" then it shouldn't have. This fight is stupid especially when we could have a 140 tournament on our hands and Maidana who shares the same promoter is available.

TOURNEY AT 140!!!!!!!

dmar5143 wrote:

kahn is trying to make a big fight..nothing wrong with that.his options are limited now that alexanders fighting soon and a bradley-alexander fight for jan seems to be a reality

His options are not limited. Khan could have any one of Bradley, Alexander, Maidana, (not to mention Judah). All would be big fights in England.

Bradley and Alexander are talking about fighting each other only because Khan wants no part of either one of them- see Khan's recent comments regarding Bradley when faced with the real possibility of actualy fighting him ("get to the back of the line").

No, instead Khan is more interested in another hand picked opponent in 37 year old undersized JMM; all this after Khan's incessant running of the mouth about wanting Bradley next and knocking out the best at 140.

4445Frank wrote:

Gumby wrote:

It may be a big fight, but Khan will brutalize JMM. Khan and his team think so as well. That's why they pushed to make the fight right after JMM lost to Floyd. Now they're pushing again. It's cherry picking and resume padding.

It would be fine if Khan didn't run his mouth about how he's the best in the division and would drop everyone at 140. Or if he takes the fight at 135 in Mexico. But that won't happen and he has a long list of worthy challengers to his belt including his mandatory in Maidana.

To the specific point of the quote: he's saying he's looking for tough fights. Yet taking on an aging, undersized fighter who matches up perfectly for him isn't really seeking out challenges. He's also trying to imply that he's the underdog in the fight and making a big risk to challenge Marquez. When the general consensus is he'll be a huge favorite and dictate the stipulations of the fight. It's disingenuous.

Believe me, I understand your argument and it's a good one. However, don't under estimate Marquez. If you'd like to understand this guy better, check out the career of Jose Luis Ramirez. He was outclassed by exceptional boxers in his weight class, but fought great fights against world class punchers aka Edwin Rosario and gave Julio Chavez all he could handle. Khan is not exactly a moving target and Marquez prides himself on how much punishment he can take. Big difference between Khan and Floyd. If the match up is made, I'll have to say this is the one time Freddie Roach may be in for a surprise. From personal experience, I've noticed that Mexican warriors ( I don't consider Antonio M. any kind of a warrior) are able to bounce back from defeats like the one suffered by Marquez. I have to think that unless they are knocked out or stopped, they really don't consider it a loss. I think they look at the sport differently. You want to end the career of an exceptionally talanted Mexican fighter? See Tommy Hearns vs. Pipino Cuevas.

I could definitely be wrong and Marquez could pull of a spectacular win. But Khan's painting himself as the underdog and a guy willing to fight anyone doesn't hold up. If he were to come out and say "he's a legend on the decline and I want to help him see his way out of the sport before I handle everyone else in my division," I'd have tons of respect. Even if he were like Floyd and said, "I want $, this is the $ fight" I'd shut up. But he's here acting like this is his riskiest option and that's bull shit. Especially since he said he'd KO all of the top fighters in his division and I believe he is on record as saying he wants to "safely navigate" his way to the top. He can't have it both ways.