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PostSubject: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:05 am

Less than 1 hour left for Floyd's decision. If he accepts or declines Bob Arum will hold a conference call at 3:00am EST.

They're streaming it live on the Top Rank website.


http://www.toprank.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=23700&catid=0
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:08 am

Floyd's not going to sign Sad

No we'll be stuck with the pointless Cotto rematch thanks to Nevada's decision.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:15 am

Something is really fucking wrong with the sport when two assholes can't figure out a way to split 50-something million dollars.

First Manny was a bitch about it, now Floyd's being a bitch about it.

Fuck the both of them. The sport is making me sick to my fucking stomach these days.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:15 am

I dont think he's signing but it will be interested to see what BS Bob has to say.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:17 am

SlickMoneyXL wrote:
I dont think he's signing but it will be interested to see what BS Bob has to say.

That slimy Jew is going to try to get a Margacheato fight made if he can. Otherwise it will be a Cotto rematch.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:28 am

and our fans wonder why MMA and the UFC is thriving
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:29 am

Birdofthad wrote:
and our fans wonder why MMA and the UFC is thriving

I, personally, don't wonder one bit anymore.

MMA/UFC is a better product. People better get used to it.
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KrazyHorseBennett wrote:
Birdofthad wrote:
and our fans wonder why MMA and the UFC is thriving

I, personally, don't wonder one bit anymore.

MMA/UFC is a better product. People better get used to it.


Better product? I dont see it.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:37 am

SlickMoneyXL wrote:
KrazyHorseBennett wrote:
Birdofthad wrote:
and our fans wonder why MMA and the UFC is thriving

I, personally, don't wonder one bit anymore.

MMA/UFC is a better product. People better get used to it.


Better product? I dont see it.

The stacked cards alone kick the shit out of boxing these days. When was the last top-to-bottom boxing PPV that delivered?

The only argument you could have is if you are some sort of purist and don't like the sport itself. But someone that enjoys both sports can't logically say that boxing is delivering more these days.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:38 am

they put on fights for the fans with stacked cards every month slick

unless your visually impaired I dont get how you cant see it, plus mainstream america doesnt care about boxing anymore, mainstream america has been forced to care about MMA hence all the bozo writers at ESPN and Sherdog who have more mistakes in 1 paper than Bert Sugar and Hank Kaplan did in a lifetime
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:42 am

I still think the limitation on MMA is the same as the decathlon. Decathletes are rarely, if ever, world elite in any one of the ten events. Instead they are very good at most of them. But if you want to see the best of the best? Watch sprinters, jumpers, throwers in their specialty. MMA is the same way. None of those guys are elite level boxers and wrestlers and jiu jitsu guys etc. Instead they might be elite at one and acceptable at the others. The best boxing, wrestling, jiu jitsu, karate etc is done by specialists.

I prefer watching the very best.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:44 am

thats true marble, but the sport is getting more world class wrestlers like young Ben Askren, some top Wrestlers and BJJ guys are crossing over but the sport doesnt have top boxers or Judo guys yet just some good ones (judo) other than TOney they dont have 1 legit top boxer
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:45 am

marbleheadmaui wrote:
I still think the limitation on MMA is the same as the decathlon. Decathletes are rarely, if ever, world elite in any one of the ten events. Instead they are very good at most of them. But if you want to see the best of the best? Watch sprinters, jumpers, throwers in their specialty. MMA is the same way. None of those guys are elite level boxers and wrestlers and jiu jitsu guys etc. Instead they might be elite at one and acceptable at the others. The best boxing, wrestling, jiu jitsu, karate etc is done by specialists.

I prefer watching the very best.

I agree, and when boxing is at it's best, it's better. But things have become so disintegrated and washed-out these days it's sickening. Thus MMA has crept up and is kicking boxing's ass.

Boxing can be the best, but the people that control the game aren't letting it be. The entire infrastructure of the sport is fucked.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:47 am

marbleheadmaui wrote:
I still think the limitation on MMA is the same as the decathlon. Decathletes are rarely, if ever, world elite in any one of the ten events. Instead they are very good at most of them. But if you want to see the best of the best? Watch sprinters, jumpers, throwers in their specialty. MMA is the same way. None of those guys are elite level boxers and wrestlers and jiu jitsu guys etc. Instead they might be elite at one and acceptable at the others. The best boxing, wrestling, jiu jitsu, karate etc is done by specialists.

I prefer watching the very best.

but this is what royally pisses me off about boxing sometimes the best dont fight the best and i thinks its crap it needs to be more about the sport and less about the flippin promoters trying to make $
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:48 am

Birdofthad wrote:
thats true marble, but the sport is getting more world class wrestlers like young Ben Askren, some top Wrestlers and BJJ guys are crossing over but the sport doesnt have top boxers or Judo guys yet just some good ones (judo) other than TOney they dont have 1 legit top boxer

I'm not sure it's even possible to be truly elite at more than one discipline. I mean how good a boxer can one become training that skill one hour a day when boxers are training it 3-4? The MMA guy has to have time and energy to train what? 4-6 distinct disciplines? Isn't it just the nature of MMA to be a jack of all trades master of none?
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marbleheadmaui wrote:
I still think the limitation on MMA is the same as the decathlon. Decathletes are rarely, if ever, world elite in any one of the ten events. Instead they are very good at most of them. But if you want to see the best of the best? Watch sprinters, jumpers, throwers in their specialty. MMA is the same way. None of those guys are elite level boxers and wrestlers and jiu jitsu guys etc. Instead they might be elite at one and acceptable at the others. The best boxing, wrestling, jiu jitsu, karate etc is done by specialists.

I prefer watching the very best.

I agree, and when boxing is at it's best, it's better. But things have become so disintegrated and washed-out these days it's sickening. Thus MMA has crept up and is kicking boxing's ass.

Boxing can be the best, but the people that control the game aren't letting it be. The entire infrastructure of the sport is fucked.

Yup. The fans are better served by a monopoly that screws over the fighters. It's too bad, but it is true.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:49 am

I don't want to see a Cotto rematch or see that dirty Mexican asshole get a fight that people will pay any attention too. No-win situation. I'd rather see Manny trash Berto
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i hope they make Manny vvs Cotto and it bombs
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 2:52 am

You could also look at it in terms of the sport of boxing being a micro part of "combat sports".

Just like "basketball". The greats are masters at several disciplines within that sport. Defense, shooting, scoring, rebounding, etc.

The time has almost come where boxing does not have the stranglehold on being the pre-eminent force in 'combat sport". And it's boxing's own damn fault.
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KrazyHorseBennett wrote:
You could also look at it in terms of the sport of boxing being a micro part of "combat sports".

Just like "basketball". The greats are masters at several disciplines within that sport. Defense, shooting, scoring, rebounding, etc.

The time has almost come where boxing does not have the stranglehold on being the pre-eminent force in 'combat sport". And it's boxing's own damn fault.

because the best dont fight the best any more i will rant and rave about that all day long if i'm given the chance
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PostSubject: Re: Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST   Top Rank Conference Call with Bob Arum at 3:00am EST EmptySat Jul 17, 2010 3:03 am

Conference Call hasnt started yet but they have a Poll on who would you want Pacquiao to fight next out of Margo,Cotto, or Bradley and Timothy Bradley is the front runner.
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SlickMoneyXL wrote:
Conference Call hasnt started yet but they have a Poll on who would you want Pacquiao to fight next out of Margo,Cotto, or Bradley and Timothy Bradley is the front runner.

but we all know that wont happen because of uncle bob
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It has started. Arum sounds half dead.
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bet Arum fixes the poll
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SlickMoneyXL wrote:
It has started. Arum sounds half dead.

Let's urge him on to achieve full-dead.
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