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hardcoreBEE24 Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Thomas Hearns Posts : 1285 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Massapequa Park, NY
| Subject: Is anyone sold on Tavoris Cloud? Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:45 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Is anyone sold on Tavoris Cloud? Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:45 am | |
| I am sold on his ability but not his mentality, I mean who's stupid enough to sign with Don King. |
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hardcoreBEE24 Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Thomas Hearns Posts : 1285 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Massapequa Park, NY
| Subject: Re: Is anyone sold on Tavoris Cloud? Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:56 am | |
| - Ali_1748 wrote:
- I am sold on his ability but not his mentality, I mean who's stupid enough to sign with Don King.
He's flat footed and gets hit way too much. I hope he try's to slug it out with the road warrior. | |
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4445Frank Purple Belt
Posts : 1517 Join date : 2010-04-09
| Subject: Re: Is anyone sold on Tavoris Cloud? Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:05 am | |
| I'm going with Johnson against the younger, stronger fighter. No doubt, Cloud may win on ability but I can't turn against the "Road Warrior." | |
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dmar5143 Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : marciano pep robinson greb manny pac Posts : 1619 Join date : 2010-05-12 Age : 81 Location : charlotte nc
| Subject: Re: Is anyone sold on Tavoris Cloud? Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:19 am | |
| years ago we called these contenders pretenders..untill he fights often against 3 or 4 top rated guys he will stay a pretender in my mind....like the platters song the great pretender. | |
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4445Frank Purple Belt
Posts : 1517 Join date : 2010-04-09
| Subject: Re: Is anyone sold on Tavoris Cloud? Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:24 am | |
| - dmar5143 wrote:
- years ago we called these contenders pretenders..untill he fights often against 3 or 4 top rated guys he will stay a pretender in my mind....like the platters song the great pretender.
Agreed. And he seems to be using Glen Johnson as a stepping stone. Big mistake. Even if Cloud wins, he'll be in bed for a month. | |
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Canvas Purple Belt
Posts : 1508 Join date : 2010-05-15
| Subject: Re: Is anyone sold on Tavoris Cloud? Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:04 am | |
| He took the suitcase of cash from King and now he'll sit on the sidelines during his prime earning years. When he does fight King won't even pay him his minimum.
Yet another delusional fighter who would rather be inactive and make nothing than make less than he thinks he's worth.
I'm not sold on him because I never see enough of him to make an assesment. | |
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gomez1012 Black Belt
Posts : 3011 Join date : 2010-05-26 Location : Bay Area
| Subject: Re: Is anyone sold on Tavoris Cloud? Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:36 am | |
| I think he overlooks Johnson, thinking the Jamaican vet is like his previous opponents in Woods and Julio Gonzalez, but finds out the Road Warrior still has plenty left
Firefight from the get go and Cloud ends up on the floor | |
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Canvas Purple Belt
Posts : 1508 Join date : 2010-05-15
| Subject: Re: Is anyone sold on Tavoris Cloud? Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:43 pm | |
| I would love it if you were right Gomez. | |
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4445Frank Purple Belt
Posts : 1517 Join date : 2010-04-09
| Subject: Re: Is anyone sold on Tavoris Cloud? Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:53 pm | |
| - gomez1012 wrote:
- I think he overlooks Johnson, thinking the Jamaican vet is like his previous opponents in Woods and Julio Gonzalez, but finds out the Road Warrior still has plenty left
Firefight from the get go and Cloud ends up on the floor That would be great, Gomez. Glen Johnson is my favorite active fighter along with Manny. | |
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captainanddew Brown Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ricky Burns Posts : 2946 Join date : 2010-05-22 Age : 47 Location : Richmond, Virginia
| Subject: Re: Is anyone sold on Tavoris Cloud? Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:59 pm | |
| I have a feeling that Cloud is going to struggle at the elite level of 175. He could knock out the guys he faced on the way up (tomato cans, fellow prospects, etc..), but he won't be able to do that to world class guys on a regular basis. and they will outbox him.
Johnson is going to take him into the deep water. We will see whether he can swim. | |
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Ring Purple Belt
Posts : 1032 Join date : 2010-05-13
| Subject: Re: Is anyone sold on Tavoris Cloud? Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:29 pm | |
| Tavoris Cloud is a small Lt. Heavyweight, I expect Glen Johnson to hand him his ass on August 7th. | |
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| Subject: Re: Is anyone sold on Tavoris Cloud? Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:45 pm | |
| Cloud doesn't show much. He looks strong...but he hasn't shown too much more than that. Pretty good stamina, pretty good combination punching, works the body, and decent power.
He's not bad, but I don't think he's world class, and I don't respect him at all. |
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captainanddew Brown Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ricky Burns Posts : 2946 Join date : 2010-05-22 Age : 47 Location : Richmond, Virginia
| Subject: Re: Is anyone sold on Tavoris Cloud? Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:47 pm | |
| To add to what I said before. Cloud can punch, but he doesn't have the type pf power that will destroy the elite 4-5 guys at 175, and I can see all of those guys being able to outbox him.
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