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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 3:14 am

So you think today's UFC HW is better than the Pride age HW?
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 9:00 am

If Big Nog is in his prime he wins this easily.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 12:33 pm

Wolfgangsta wrote:
So you think today's UFC HW is better than the Pride age HW?


Not what we are talking about. Brock vs Nog remember? Instead of all the misleads and side stepping just say agree to disagree Wolf.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 12:51 pm

BBC that is exactly what he is saying if Carwin and Lesnar are both top five, and able to beat down the second best Pride HW of all time in his mind. Please pay attention BBC.


LA answer the question.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 12:55 pm

prime Nog would make Brock his bitch.

disclaimer: this was posted by a Brock hater.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 1:01 pm

No disclaimer needed. Brock has five fucking fights and hasn't beaten a single fucking fighter besides an aged Couture and a lucky as fuck Mir who still managed to beat him once and this guy is destroying prime all time legends in their prime? Excuse me? Is this whole forum really saying this?
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 1:05 pm

Wolf- I am a Brock hater. You are blind if you do not see his raw power, not to mention the speed and agility he has with his HUGE size advantage.

Who is going to outwrestle Brock? Who is going to withstand those ham sized fists clobbering down onto someone's head in a ground and pound situation?

I can honestly only think of maybe 2 people that can beat Brock RIGHT now...those guys are Carwin and Fedor. I dont think Carwin wins though, I am picking Lesnar in that fight as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 1:06 pm

Wolfgangsta wrote:
No disclaimer needed. Brock has five fucking fights and hasn't beaten a single fucking fighter besides an aged Couture and a lucky as fuck Mir who still managed to beat him once and this guy is destroying prime all time legends in their prime? Excuse me? Is this whole forum really saying this?

I couldn't agree more. I just have so much hate for Brock and Tito that it may cloud my judgment. Remember I voted Brock as #3 on the rankings and an entire thread dedicated to my rankings was made because of it. So I try not to get involved in Brock or Tito talk without throwing the discalimer out there.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 1:52 pm

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There isn't any possible way Lesnar avoids the sub forever. Be serious men.


3 rounds Lesnar would beat him down in the first and it would be stopped. We aren't talking about a green Brock who doesn't know sub defense. I just don't see Nog getting away from the control of Lesnar.
were not talking about a slow nog who cant take shots, remember big nogs reputation in pride, get beat up until the other guy tires and then he subs him... i see the same thing happening here
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 1:56 pm

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BBC that is exactly what he is saying if Carwin and Lesnar are both top five, and able to beat down the second best Pride HW of all time in his mind. Please pay attention BBC.


LA answer the question.

You're right and I didn't take what LA said into consideration. I am gonna hate it if Carwin KO's Brock.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 2:00 pm

Wolfgangsta wrote:
No disclaimer needed. Brock has five fucking fights and hasn't beaten a single fucking fighter besides an aged Couture and a lucky as fuck Mir who still managed to beat him once and this guy is destroying prime all time legends in their prime? Excuse me? Is this whole forum really saying this?


First Mir fight was a fluke and we saw what happened the next time when he stepped in against Brock. What happened to Nog against Mir? I myself buy the staph thing so I will let it go. What about the old man vs Brock? What about the old man vs Nog? What about Herring vs both in the UFC? Brock made them look silly while Nog barely escaped both by decision.


Not a prime Nog so I will take this back. I do agree he was better in his Pride era. Brock still wins imo.


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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 2:01 pm

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
Wolfgangsta wrote:
BBC that is exactly what he is saying if Carwin and Lesnar are both top five, and able to beat down the second best Pride HW of all time in his mind. Please pay attention BBC.


LA answer the question.

You're right and I didn't take what LA said into consideration. I am gonna hate it if Carwin KO's Brock.

Yeah but if Brock KO's Carwin I will bawl my eyes out. Put me on suicide watch if that happens.
On the other hand if Carwin pulls the KO I will cum in my pants and cry tears of joy.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 2:14 pm

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Wolfgangsta wrote:
BBC that is exactly what he is saying if Carwin and Lesnar are both top five, and able to beat down the second best Pride HW of all time in his mind. Please pay attention BBC.


LA answer the question.

You're right and I didn't take what LA said into consideration. I am gonna hate it if Carwin KO's Brock.

Yeah but if Brock KO's Carwin I will bawl my eyes out. Put me on suicide watch if that happens.
On the other hand if Carwin pulls the KO I will cum in my pants and cry tears of joy.


I hope you get the clap if that happens.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 2:17 pm

Herring got his fucking ass beat the whole UFC fight by Nog save the one single kick. Nog owned him all but 2 seconds of the fight. Did you see what he did to Herring in their earlier fights?

Nog was ten times faster in Pride, more agile, better cardio, better striker, better bjj than Lesnar would ever have.

Lesnar's cardio, chin, sub defense, and wrestling has never really been tested yet. Too many intangibles. I know Couture was wrestling him pretty evenly.

Everyone would look fast and agile against Old Couture and Mir and Herring.

Brock is like Vitor Belfort before Couture smashed him.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 2:27 pm

And even if he's ten times faster, more agile, with better cardio he STILL cannot train for a near 300lb Division 1 all american wrestler with sixe 5x Gloves on top of him beating his face into geriatric-ness.
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ya ya, he has super powers, whatever. You're all like children.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 2:54 pm

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ya ya, he has super powers, whatever. You're all like children.

Man I'm so glad you are here saying this. I have always been amazed by the perception of Brock.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins this Heavyweight tournament?   Who wins this Heavyweight tournament? - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 4:47 pm

Well that meant they will be both still be top 5 in the current landscape, but Brock and Carwin are the new age of HW, they could both potentially beat Fedor due to size and strength let alone Nog.
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