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PostSubject: Troy Ross protests loss, says cut from a thumb to the eye.....   Troy Ross protests loss, says cut from a thumb to the eye..... EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 1:35 am

....and so he should. As I said earler today it was clear that Cunningham thumbed him and that is what tore his eyelid open.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=28336
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I will definitely try to catch another shot of it online as soon as it is up somewhere.
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Canvas wrote:
....and so he should. As I said earler today it was clear that Cunningham thumbed him and that is what tore his eyelid open.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=28336

Sorry, this kind of stuff is garbage in my view. Unless the ref called a foul on Cunninmgham? Stuff happens. You either continue or you lose.

Reason 326 why the damned technical decision idiocy should be abolished.
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PostSubject: Re: Troy Ross protests loss, says cut from a thumb to the eye.....   Troy Ross protests loss, says cut from a thumb to the eye..... EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 1:46 am

It was clear as day. I found one you tube but the angle is not good. I watched the fight on my big screen plasma TV in High Definition. They replayed it in slow motion numerous times and it was very obvious. Ross got screwed.

It was revealed that the judges had the fight a draw at the time of the stopage which is also a joke, as Ross should have had the lead with the knock down.
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Canvas wrote:
It was clear as day. I found one you tube but the angle is not good. I watched the fight on my big screen plasma TV in High Definition. They replayed it in slow motion numerous times and it was very obvious. Ross got screwed.

It was revealed that the judges had the fight a draw at the time of the stopage which is also a joke, as Ross should have had the lead with the knock down.

He only got screwed if you think the technical decision idiocy is a good idea. Given the events of the past 18 months with fighters opting to quit, trying to game the system etc? Pretty obvious it makes fighters think NOT as warriors. If it was a foul? Then call it. If not? Conttinue or lose.


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Best scenario is the IBF orders a rematch.
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Ali_1748 wrote:
Best scenario is the IBF orders a rematch.

Whose chesticles are those?
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marbleheadmaui wrote:
Ali_1748 wrote:
Best scenario is the IBF orders a rematch.

Whose chesticles are those?

A lovely young girl named Helen Flanagan.
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marbleheadmaui wrote:
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....and so he should. As I said earler today it was clear that Cunningham thumbed him and that is what tore his eyelid open.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=28336

Sorry, this kind of stuff is garbage in my view. Unless the ref called a foul on Cunninmgham? Stuff happens. You either continue or you lose.

Reason 326 why the damned technical decision idiocy should be abolished.

I disagree. When it is clear to everyone that the referee errored, it should be corrected. Otherwise it is too easy for the integrity of the officials to be called into question for missing blatant fouls that determine the outcome of the fight.
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Ali_1748 wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
Ali_1748 wrote:
Best scenario is the IBF orders a rematch.

Whose chesticles are those?

A lovely young girl named Helen Flanagan.

She certainly is. Very distracting Smile
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marbleheadmaui wrote:
Ali_1748 wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
Ali_1748 wrote:
Best scenario is the IBF orders a rematch.

Whose chesticles are those?

A lovely young girl named Helen Flanagan.

She certainly is. Very distracting Smile

There is some more shots of her cleavage in the Ultimate thread of lust.
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marbleheadmaui wrote:
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....and so he should. As I said earler today it was clear that Cunningham thumbed him and that is what tore his eyelid open.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=28336

Sorry, this kind of stuff is garbage in my view. Unless the ref called a foul on Cunninmgham? Stuff happens. You either continue or you lose.

Reason 326 why the damned technical decision idiocy should be abolished.

It had nothing to do with Ross looking for a way out, it had to do with Ross' lower eyelid being torn open from a foul. Ross didn't indicate at all that he wanted to stop, the ref forced the stop.
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marbleheadmaui wrote:
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....and so he should. As I said earler today it was clear that Cunningham thumbed him and that is what tore his eyelid open.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=28336

Sorry, this kind of stuff is garbage in my view. Unless the ref called a foul on Cunninmgham? Stuff happens. You either continue or you lose.

Reason 326 why the damned technical decision idiocy should be abolished.

I disagree. When it is clear to everyone that the referee errored, it should be corrected. Otherwise it is too easy for the integrity of the officials to be called into question for missing blatant fouls that determine the outcome of the fight.

I counter-disagree. It is the ref's job, nobody else's. The choice is, or oughtta be, either DQ Cunningham or TKO the guy who couldn't continue. All this crap does is take the warrior spirit out of the game in the name of I haven't any idea what. What separates boxing from other sports is the continue or lose element. Bad luck? It happens. Wreck your knee? Get up and fight. Bleeding like crazy? Ask Mancini and Gonzales and Marciano how they overcame it.
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marbleheadmaui wrote:
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....and so he should. As I said earler today it was clear that Cunningham thumbed him and that is what tore his eyelid open.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=28336

Sorry, this kind of stuff is garbage in my view. Unless the ref called a foul on Cunninmgham? Stuff happens. You either continue or you lose.

Reason 326 why the damned technical decision idiocy should be abolished.

It had nothing to do with Ross looking for a way out, it had to do with Ross' lower eyelid being torn open from a foul. Ross didn't indicate at all that he wanted to stop, the ref forced the stop.

Unless you think Cunningham did it intentionally it isn't even a foul, just bad luck.
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and Ross did continue to fight. The REf stopped it, not Ross. Ross was game to continue. Did you watch the fight Marble? Ross did not complain about the cut or the foul. The ref stopped it,and Ross was given the loss, despite dropping Cunningham just minutes earlier.

So Ross had the fight taken away from him when he was willing to continue thruough no fault of his own. This was not Kermit Cintron prat falling out of the ring or Hopkins play acting to try and induce a DQ.
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[Unless you think Cunningham did it intentionally it isn't even a foul, just bad luck.[/quote]

I think it would be treated the same as an unintentional headbutt. It would go to the scorecards. I could be wrong.
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Canvas wrote:
and Ross did continue to fight. The REf stopped it, not Ross. Ross was game to continue. Did you watch the fight Marble? Ross did not complain about the cut or the foul. The ref stopped it,and Ross was given the loss, despite dropping Cunningham just minutes earlier.

So Ross had the fight taken away from him when he was willing to continue thruough no fault of his own. This was not Kermit Cintron prat falling out of the ring or Hopkins play acting to try and induce a DQ.

IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!!!!!!!

Or at least it shouldn't. You choose not to continue or you don't convince the ref/doc that you can. YOU LOSE!

Marciano was given one more round against Ezzard. He either KO's him in the eighth or he loses. That massive cut was caused by an elbow, not a punch.

THAT is the kind of thing that makes boxing special. It isn't about fair, it's about overcoming adversity.
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Canvas wrote:
[Unless you think Cunningham did it intentionally it isn't even a foul, just bad luck.

I think it would be treated the same as an unintentional headbutt. It would go to the scorecards. I could be wrong.[/quote]

And here is problem 627 with the technical decision idiocy. If Yuri's knee had gotten the fight stopped you think that should have gone to the scorecards too?

Where does it end? What about a broken hand?
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It should end at accidental gashes being opened from anything other than a clean punch. Smile
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I hear what your saying, but going by the rules of the sport he has a legitamit complaint.
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Canvas wrote:
I hear what your saying, but going by the rules of the sport he has a legitamit complaint.

I'm not even sure that's correct, but you're right it also isn't my point.

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Watch out folks, Marble is gonna rule the world. Lol. Actually if he ruled boxing, it would be a better sport.
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Hopefully a rematch gets ordered by the IBF and we get to see this fight again, I don't believe Cunningham is champion of anything, and he certainly didn't win it in the ring.
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