watching JMM vs Pac 2

one of the few recent fights of pacs i've not watched in it's entirety i've only seen highlights so i'm gonna watch it and see what i think as opposed to the controversy that went into the decision.

Let us know. I've seen this fight multiple times. Scored it 114-113 Pac with the knockdown being the winning difference

oh yea not a prob i will let you know what i think in just a bit

bobbitt15 wrote:

Let us know. I've seen this fight multiple times. Scored it 114-113 Pac with the knockdown being the winning difference

I have two JMM fan friends who had it the same.

ive got it right down the middle so far 3-3 w/ pac only being ahead by a point because of the k.d.

ok guys i just finished watching it and screw ledermans card i had the fight 6-6 with the deciding point coming from pac's k.d. had it not been for the KD this fight would have ended in another draw just like the first

Deezy0814 wrote:

ok guys i just finished watching it and screw ledermans card i had the fight 6-6 with the deciding point coming from pac's k.d. had it not been for the KD this fight would have ended in another draw just like the first

Hell the first one is only a draw because of that one dumb ass judge fucking up the score.

soonermark890 wrote:

Deezy0814 wrote:

ok guys i just finished watching it and screw ledermans card i had the fight 6-6 with the deciding point coming from pac's k.d. had it not been for the KD this fight would have ended in another draw just like the first

Hell the first one is only a draw because of that one dumb ass judge fucking up the score.

this is true but stranger things have happened, but IMO w/ this fight even all the way w/ the deciding point being pacs KD in the 3rd

Deezy0814 wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Deezy0814 wrote:

ok guys i just finished watching it and screw ledermans card i had the fight 6-6 with the deciding point coming from pac's k.d. had it not been for the KD this fight would have ended in another draw just like the first

Hell the first one is only a draw because of that one dumb ass judge fucking up the score.

this is true but stranger things have happened, but IMO w/ this fight even all the way w/ the deciding point being pacs KD in the 3rd

I dont understand the arguement. I have watched that fight a few times and I have always had Pac winning. If JMM wanted the win he would have stayed on his feet. Then he might have an arguement.

At the time I had Marquez winning, but it's been a couple years so maybe I'd see it differently now.

IMO i think this fight played out to a 6-6 but there maybe one round or so that could go pacs way i would have to watch again to see what one i think is most deserving but pac still won the 2nd fight either way w/ the point from the knock down

you gotta realize though its the up to the judges transgression sooner, you dont hae to have a 10-7

i probably would have scored that first round in the first fight a 10-7 just because of how quick each of the 3 KD's were. i mean they were really one right after the other.

Birdofthad wrote:

you gotta realize though its the up to the judges transgression sooner, you dont hae to have a 10-7

Then that judge should never be allowed to judge again because he is a fucking idiot.

no offense sooners but i disagree, its up to the judge and the judge didnt agree the opening roun d was 10-7

most judges wont do 10-7s just so ya know, its more surprising to see 2 10-7s than one 10-8 IMO

I scored both fights for Marquez. Watched both fights multiple times. I don't have a problem with someone who had Pac winning. Those were razor close decisions that could have gone either way.

That is a big part of boxing.

The thing that aggravates me (not being done here) is the number of boxing fans who call a fight like that a robbery. A robbery is when a guy should win by 4-5 pts on all cards and loses.

captainanddew wrote:

I scored both fights for Marquez. Watched both fights multiple times. I don't have a problem with someone who had Pac winning. Those were razor close decisions that could have gone either way.

That is a big part of boxing.

The thing that aggravates me (not being done here) is the number of boxing fans who call a fight like that a robbery. A robbery is when a guy should win by 4-5 pts on all cards and loses.

i agree that they could have gone either way in both fights. i think it was impressive in the first fight for JMM to fight all the way back to a draw and in the second IMO the deciding factor in the decision was the KD. i think the second fight had a few rounds that could have gone either way but i don't have a problem w/ pac winning just the same as had JMM pulled the decision in the second.

Birdofthad wrote:

no offense sooners but i disagree, its up to the judge and the judge didnt agree the opening roun d was 10-7

most judges wont do 10-7s just so ya know, its more surprising to see 2 10-7s than one 10-8 IMO

Didnt the judge do a 10-7 but it should have been a 10-6 right? I cant remember clearly. Anyways so what you are saying is Pac did not deserve credit for the KD's?

captainanddew wrote:

I scored both fights for Marquez. Watched both fights multiple times. I don't have a problem with someone who had Pac winning. Those were razor close decisions that could have gone either way.

That is a big part of boxing.

The thing that aggravates me (not being done here) is the number of boxing fans who call a fight like that a robbery. A robbery is when a guy should win by 4-5 pts on all cards and loses.

Yeah it was no robbery. I think if a JMM fan wants to make a really good arguement they should argue the first fight. I thought that one was way closer than the second. Either way I wish they would fight again I love both of these guys.

I hope they don't fight again. Marquez has so much less left than Pac. Marquez has looked worse as he has gone up in weight and he is much older than Pac.