HW top ten 5/16/2010

1. Fedor - No argument. There are a lot of "champions" in the HW division right now, but this is MMA's true HW champion. The best fighter in the division's history.
2. Brock - Mostly because he has a lot of promising looking gifts and has a championship belt. The biggest and strongest fighter in the division.
3. Carwin - Mostly because he has a lot of promising looking gifts and has a championship belt. The biggest puncher in the division.
4. Cain - I wonder how many of these champions will lose to him someday. The best wrestler in the division.
5. Overeem - Mostly because he has a lot of promising looking gifts and has a championship belt. The best striker in the division.
6. JDS - The best striker in the division in the UFC.
7. Werdum - The best BJJ player in the division.
8. Mir - Hard to know what to make of Frank Mir. Arguably the best BJJ player in the division in the UFC.
9. Nelson - He is a fight away from being a contender in the UFC. Arguaby the best BJJ player in the division in the UFC.
10. Silva - Looked crisp and well rounded against AA. As fast and fluidly athletic as we've ever seen him. The biggest Brazilian in the division. The best Silva in the division. The biggest chin in the division.

Honorable mention : Rogers, Barnett, Big Nog*, AA*


*Washed up fighters that get honorable mention until the end of their career can be accepted

Fedor, it's Fedor
Brock, the Hulk in real life
Carwin/Cain, can't decide which guy to put first but I know they're both legit
JDS, best HW striker in the World, more impressive HW wins then Reem
Overeem, roids work
Mir, think he's a better striker then Werdum
Werdum, about where he belongs
Barnett, roids and issues, but lots of talent
Roy, solid yet flabby

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Brock Lesnar
3. Cain Velasquez
4. Shane Carwin
5. Alistair Overeem
6. Junior dos Santos
7. Josh Barnett
8. Fabricio Werdum
9. Frank Mir
10. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

HM: Antonio Silva, Roy Nelson, Brett Rogers, Andrei Arlovski and Pudzilla(kidding)

I would rank Barnett but the only fight he has had since he failed his roids test was a fiasco with Mighty Mo where he was allowed to kick with shoes on. That doesn't even fucking count as a real fight.

[quote="Wolfgangsta"]1. Fedor - No argument. There are a lot of "champions" in the HW division right now, but this is MMA's true HW champion. The best fighter in the division's history.
2. Brock - Mostly because he has a lot of promising looking gifts and has a championship belt. The biggest and strongest fighter in the division.
3. Carwin - Mostly because he has a lot of promising looking gifts and has a championship belt. The biggest puncher in the division.
4. Cain - I wonder how many of these champions will lose to him someday. The best wrestler in the division.
5. Overeem - Mostly because he has a lot of promising looking gifts and has a championship belt. The best striker in the division.
6. JDS - The best striker in the division in the UFC.
7. Werdum - The best BJJ player in the division.
8. Mir - Hard to know what to make of Frank Mir. Arguably the best BJJ player in the division in the UFC.
9. Nelson - He is a fight away from being a contender in the UFC. Arguaby the best BJJ player in the division in the UFC.
10. Silva - Looked crisp and well rounded against AA. As fast and fluidly athletic as we've ever seen him. The biggest Brazilian in the division. The best Silva in the division. The biggest chin in the division.

Looks good, but I would switch JDS and Reem. I have to put Werdum up in my top 10 since he beat Bigfoot last and has a win over Reem. Getting KO'd by JDS isn't as bad when I consider that he beat guy that toyed with AA. Last nite shook my top ten up. I respect the 3 SF guys a whole lot more.

Fedor
Brock
Cain
Carwin
JDS
Overeem
Mir
Nelson
Barnett
Werdum

1. Fedor
2. Brock
3. Carwin
4. Cain
5. JDS
6. Werdum
7. Overeem
8. Mir
9. Roy Nelson
10. Big Nog

1. Fedor
2. Brock
3. Carwin
4. Cain
5. JDS
6. Werdum
7. Overeem
8. Mir
9. Big Foot
10. Rogers or Roy Nelson

moved out Big Nog and Rogers is on the cusp

I honestly didnt want big foot in but Rogers moved down or out ( cant decide yet) and Overeem moved up 3 in my rankings

I was very temped to put Bigfoot or Roy Nelson top 10..maybe 9 and 10...and bump Mir and Nog but it was just a couple months ago they were both in my top 5.

When Farmar posts the actual voting thread i might decide to put Silva in top 10, maybe both him and Nelson. I have Mir and Nogueira's status under strong evaluation...Barnett's as well. I'll keep them in for a preliminary vote like this but two of those three might be in the HM's when we vote.

Yeah he's close for me too, him and Nog are 11/12 or 12/11

Nog, AA, Barnett are all out of my top ten until they either start winning or become relevant again.

I am kind of over keeping washed up fighters around wasting rankings spots until it's absolutely certain they're really washed up.

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Cain Velasquez
3. Brock Lesnar
4. Shane Carwin
5. Junior dos Santos
6. Frank Mir
7. Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira
8. Josh Barnett
9. Alister Overeem
10. Fabricio Werdum

GDPofDRC wrote:

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Cain Velasquez
3. Brock Lesnar
4. Shane Carwin
5. Junior dos Santos
6. Frank Mir
7. Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira
8. Josh Barnett
9. Alister Overeem
10. Fabricio Werdum

yikes

still high on Big Nog??

If not being as good as Cain Velasquez makes you washed up then my list only has two names on it. Someone is spreading the fickle and everyone is eating it.

i just think Nog has definitlely showed he isnt what he once was

I have him sixth best HW in the UFC right now and I might switch it to fifth depending on what I think of Mir tomorrow.

01. Fedor Emelienanko
02. Brock Lesnar
03. Shane Carwin
04. Cain Velasquez
05. Junior Dos Santos
06. Frank Mir
07. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
08. Allistair Overeem
09. Antonio Silva
10. Fabricio Werdum


- the Win over Rogers doesn't overly impress me, Overeem was a horrible matchup for Rogers from the get go, but he does get back into the top ten for competing and winning. I will say though the way he tossed Rogers like a ragdoll was something I never expected to see.

LudoCain wrote:

01. Fedor Emelienanko
02. Brock Lesnar
03. Shane Carwin
04. Cain Velasquez
05. Junior Dos Santos
06. Frank Mir
07. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
08. Allistair Overeem
09. Antonio Silva
10. Fabricio Werdum


- the Win over Rogers doesn't overly impress me, Overeem was a horrible matchup for Rogers from the get go, but he does get back into the top ten for competing and winning. I will say though the way he tossed Rogers like a ragdoll was something I never expected to see.

Uhhhh Ludo how is Big Foot higher than Werdum when Werdum just beat him???????

Because Bigfoot just outboxed the best boxer in the division. and Werdum is about to lose next month. I was being proactive

still dont know how that = big foot above werdum

Like it or not, Bigfoot beating Arlovski the way he beat him last night counts for something. He isn't as slow as people thought he was, his striking wasn't as sloppy as people thought it was, and honestly I was impressed because I wrote him off as losing that fight 9 out of 10 times.

ya see Im not doubting big foot

what I am doubting is how Werdum is behind him after beating him 1 fight ago

I gave big foot in my top 10, just not above werdum

01. Fedor Emelianenko
02. Brock Lesnar
03. Shane Carwin
04. Cain Velasquez
05. Frank Mir
06. Alistair Overeem
07. Junior Dos Santos
08. Josh Barnett
09. Brett Rogers
10. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

I agree on Werdum, but some thought Big foot wins if he doesn't break his hand I think