Was MTB's run a fluke?

No one gave him much of a chance in his 1st fight against Faber. But he caught a careless Faber and won the belt. He then demolished garcia who has been relegated to the prelims. but since then he has not looked very good at all. KO'd twice in the 1st rd, a close win over a guy with 2 broken hands, and a win over a guy with a very questionable ground game, and cheese steak was actually winning the striking battle.

after garcia I thought he may have been legit, now, not so much.

Rumors going around right now about problems in his personal life and he missed 14 days of camp due to them.

Well, rumors aside I think he is overrated. He does not belong near the p4p top ten but somehow ppl had him there.

If your king of a division then you should be there. He was on a 10 fight win streak with back to back wins over Faber who just defended his belt 5 times.

I wouldn't call it a fluke. Aldo is the best and its understandable to lose to him. Manny caught him after wearing 2 good ones from Brown. I'm a little shocked Manny wasn't hurt.

Not a fluke! He was for real but if the personal problems is legit they can really mess a man up depending on what they are.

He is on the wrong side of 30 and got complacent after winning the title. Personal issues abound. Overrated? Naw. Fluke? Nope. Over as a p4p entrant? Ya probably.

I did not know about the personal stuff, so he gets a semi pass for now.

But I def think he was overated(wolf). And I don't see why being atop a division automatically makes one top 10 p4p(Farmer)?

I think a guy like little nog is a better fighter then cruz, or bowles, or MTB, but never gets consideration. Why? cause he's in a much tougher division? That ain't right.


I think the current crop of heavies has some fighters that should be ranked over the pips also.

The skillset he showed was pretty scary. One touch KO power, speed enough to hit anyone(he seems slower since he squished Garcia) strength and power to go along with a tough wrestling attack and a crushing submission game.

Brown was a p4p fighter until Manny may have sent him outside the top 20 last night.

Well, Aldo is in the top 5 p4p. You can pick and choose where you want to put him. Brown and Faber are good fighters, but neither one of them presented any threat whatsoever to Aldo. Not even close. Brown looked like he didn't even belong in the ring with Aldo. So no, he was never deserving a p4p title, and therefore he was overrated because ppl had him as high as 5. Again, he's a good fighter, but not p4p. The only person in my opinion that should have a p4p in the featherweight division is Aldo. And I'd actually like to see him move up and fight Henderson or even transition to the UFC LW division because he isn't going to be tested by anyone in that weight class.

not a fluke he won damn near every round verse Faber

Aldo is just all wrong for him and he got cracked last night by Gamburyan

just 2 days ago MTB was almos everyones 2 or 3 in the division

Birdofthad wrote:

not a fluke he won damn near every round verse Faber

Aldo is just all wrong for him and he got cracked last night by Gamburyan

just 2 days ago MTB was almos everyones 2 or 3 in the division

but Faber had 2 broken hands for the majority of the 2nd fight. and brown still did very little that night. The brown that night looked nothing like the brown of the 2 previous fights. and imo, the impressive brown has been mia for 4 straight fights.

I've seen him look good 2 times out of 6.

Brown knew he had a dead dog in he ring with him and didnt extend for shit cause he didnt want to risk a elbow knockout

He still controlled Urijah IMO

has Brown slipped

hell ya

but he deserved his praise , he had been on a tear before beating Faber too

No, Manny beating MTB was a fluke.

I don't think that is a fluke as much as a greater symptom of Brown's decline.

oh and Brown broke up with his girl friend? That's why he looked so bad last night? Yeah I would have kept that a secret.

Also what is with posters here saying fighters are overrated after one loss? I feel like i'm on Sherdog.

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:

Also what is with posters here saying fighters are overrated after one loss? I feel like i'm on Sherdog.

well when a guy jumps 150 p4p spots after one win, and finds himself in the top 10, then gets KO'd twice in his next 5, you know, people will talk.

agree Ninja, like the Aoki and Mousasi fights

just cause you dont like them (which most people that do the oh he was overrated, dont like that fighter) it doesnt mean they are overrated

lets not take away from peoples victories either, Gamburyan had the fight of his life last night,took some good shots, and put Brown to sleep like no one has recently.

That run MTB had was not a fluke, it is just at its end

no way Organic Mike Brown was the 2nd best fighter in the org even when Faber was champ

Fuck no it wasnt a fluke.

MTB is still Aldo's best win even though people will credit Faber as his biggest win. MTB is #3 in my rankings.

Faber is Aldo's best win. But you can make arguments either way.


Some fighters are more vulnerable than this to others. Liddell beats Ortiz in 2006 and that proves that guy's entire career was a joke for all these people, but Forrest barely scraping by the same Ortiz coming off a long layoff, and two straight KTFO's and few are questioning if Forrest's run was actually a fluke.


Brown was less of a fluke than Forrest was.

Do we just ignore the fact that Mike Brown definitely looked like the better fighter last night? He got caught. It happens. His run happened because he was a better fighter than everyone at featherweight, not because of some strange run of great luck.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Faber is Aldo's best win. But you can make arguments either way.


Some fighters are more vulnerable than this to others. Liddell beats Ortiz in 2006 and that proves that guy's entire career was a joke for all these people, but Forrest barely scraping by the same Ortiz coming off a long layoff, and two straight KTFO's and few are questioning if Forrest's run was actually a fluke.


Brown was less of a fluke than Forrest was.

well Forrest is another of my prime examples of a p4p guy who never should have been.

It's when he was champ that I doubted the strength of the 205 div.

Let us not forget Vitor Belfort. I know this isn't anywhere near the same issue that plagued Vitor's family but it just goes to show you that no matter how much talent you have you can have your career derailed by personal life issues. Focus is half the game.

chorky777 wrote:

Do we just ignore the fact that Mike Brown definitely looked like the better fighter last night? He got caught. It happens. His run happened because he was a better fighter than everyone at featherweight, not because of some strange run of great luck.

Looked like the better fighter? He got KO'd half way into the 1st rd.

and I know people get caught, I use that argument myself quite often, but I still contend that this guy does not look the same since garcia.