What happens if?

King Mo beats mousasi? I mean I am picking Mo Lawal all the way and I know most here have Mousasi and think very highly of him(see the rankings). Does everyone turn around and say Mousasi was not that good or does everyone realize King Mo is a great athlete that all the top fighters try to bring in to train with due to his high level wrestling that he has not even used in a fight yet? Also if Mo is able to beat Mousasi with his wrestling does that hurt mousasi badly? Think of how many wrestlers are in the LHW division.

What happens is King Mo is the champ of that org and much better than originally given credit for...Mousasi still has a lot of career to go but obviously everybody is only as good as their last fight so most likely people will say he was overrated.

I hate it when people automatically say the loser of a fight was overrated. It's pretty much giving the winner no credit at all. Especially if King Mo wins this fight, it's a huge deal. If Gegard wins people will say Lawal was a nobody anyway, even though win or lose both will go on to have strong careers at LHW.

We have a lot of these situations going in to Strikeforce: Nashville

Gil beats Aoki = Aoki is overrated
Aoki beats Gil = Melendez is overrated
Henderson beats Shields = Shields is overrated and not a MW
Mousasi beats Mo = Lawal is a nobody
Mo beats Mousasi = Mousasi is overrated.
Shields beats Henderson = OH MY FUCKIN GOD!

Good thoughts. I think the manner in which these guys lose will be the most telling.

I definitely think people overvalue Mousasi and Aoki. I wouldn't be surprised if a great wrestler like Mo grinds out a victory and expect Melendez to go Sakurai on Aoki.

Shields [at MW] and Melendez are probably undervalued, but I would be surprised if Shields beat Henderson.

It depends on how it goes down. If its a quick KO then I wouldn't think much of it. That happens and can happen to anyone. It'd still leave a lot of questions unanswered, but also prop up Mo a ton.

Now if Mo dominates with wrestling and hangs with Mousasi striking then I move Mousasi down a few pegs and Mo up.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

What happens is King Mo is the champ of that org and much better than originally given credit for...Mousasi still has a lot of career to go but obviously everybody is only as good as their last fight so most likely people will say he was overrated.

I hate it when people automatically say the loser of a fight was overrated. It's pretty much giving the winner no credit at all. Especially if King Mo wins this fight, it's a huge deal. If Gegard wins people will say Lawal was a nobody anyway, even though win or lose both will go on to have strong careers at LHW.

We have a lot of these situations going in to Strikeforce: Nashville

Gil beats Aoki = Aoki is overrated
Aoki beats Gil = Melendez is overrated
Henderson beats Shields = Shields is overrated and not a MW
Mousasi beats Mo = Lawal is a nobody
Mo beats Mousasi = Mousasi is overrated.
Shields beats Henderson = OH MY FUCKIN GOD!

Good points, but you got the cred for the avatar.

I think gegard is overvalued on most lists, so a loss would drop him quite a bit. Not kill him, but it would pop the bubble.

Mo would take a huge jump. everyone likes his talent but are waiting on a real win to place him, this would be it.

Like Boomer and Farmer said it all depends on how it happens.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

What happens is King Mo is the champ of that org and much better than originally given credit for...Mousasi still has a lot of career to go but obviously everybody is only as good as their last fight so most likely people will say he was overrated.

I hate it when people automatically say the loser of a fight was overrated. It's pretty much giving the winner no credit at all. Especially if King Mo wins this fight, it's a huge deal. If Gegard wins people will say Lawal was a nobody anyway, even though win or lose both will go on to have strong careers at LHW.

We have a lot of these situations going in to Strikeforce: Nashville

Gil beats Aoki = Aoki is overrated
Aoki beats Gil = Melendez is overrated
Henderson beats Shields = Shields is overrated and not a MW
Mousasi beats Mo = Lawal is a nobody
Mo beats Mousasi = Mousasi is overrated.
Shields beats Henderson = OH MY FUCKIN GOD!

Very good post.

Seriously, Andrew, could you possibly take down or even reduce the size of that annoyingly huge fuckin' sig?

I don't think either is really over or under-valued. Mousasi is on a 15 fight win streak and has beaten some very solid opponents in that stretch therefore deserving to be a solid top-10 guy. Mo is only 6 fights into his career and short of Whitehead really hasn't fought anyone of note. I wouldn't be totally surprised if Mo wins because I think he has serious ability and eventually will be a top-10 fighter, but I think that Gegard is far more rounded a fighter and if he can negate Mo's wrestling, should handle Mo. If Mo wins in convincing fashion, it will make him a solid top-10 to most people while dropping Gegard out of the top-10. If Gegard wins, some of the doubters will still give him no credit because Mo doesn't crack the top-20 to most people. Until Gegard goes to the UFC and fights the UFC elite, his critics will always downplay his abilities... Even if that string reaches 20+ after Mo and the Dream tourney...

LudoCain wrote:

Seriously, Andrew, could you possibly take down or even reduce the size of that annoyingly huge fuckin' sig?

yeah the size reduction is a must.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

What happens is King Mo is the champ of that org and much better than originally given credit for...Mousasi still has a lot of career to go but obviously everybody is only as good as their last fight so most likely people will say he was overrated.

I hate it when people automatically say the loser of a fight was overrated. It's pretty much giving the winner no credit at all. Especially if King Mo wins this fight, it's a huge deal. If Gegard wins people will say Lawal was a nobody anyway, even though win or lose both will go on to have strong careers at LHW.

We have a lot of these situations going in to Strikeforce: Nashville

Gil beats Aoki = Aoki is overrated
Aoki beats Gil = Melendez is overrated
Henderson beats Shields = Shields is overrated and not a MW
Mousasi beats Mo = Lawal is a nobody
Mo beats Mousasi = Mousasi is overrated.
Shields beats Henderson = OH MY FUCKIN GOD!

Gil beats Aoki decisively, well then that leads to the obvious that Aoki was overrated, as Melendez in all reality would be between Griffin and Stevenson in the UFC
Aoki beats Melendez, well that just means Aoki beat a pretty solid fighter, not neccessarily that Gil was overrated, but isn't up to that level of competition yet, he beat Thomson off a long ass layoff and people busted a nut for some reason.
Hendo beats Sheilds, not sure why that'd mean Sheilds is overrated, but that he had a horrible matchup for him and is really a WW.
Mousasi beats Mo, yeah Mo has 6 fights
Mo beats Mousasi, that means he's more legit than people think, and maybe people have been going a bit overboard with Mousasi, it depends on how it goes down though
Sheilds beats Hendo, Sheilds is even more legit than already thought.

What if they all go to a split dec? How will the effect things? Everyone overrated or everyone is now legit?