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PostSubject: Re: Trades:   Trades: - Page 27 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 5:30 pm

You use whatever justifies the trade offer LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: Trades:   Trades: - Page 27 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 5:34 pm

Yeah cause Stats make no sense WTF?
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PostSubject: Re: Trades:   Trades: - Page 27 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 5:35 pm

tolivendiewithLA wrote:
2 OF for 1 OF and a RP for a RP not sure how that was a bad offer at all, let me guess Player Ranker

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1 RP for a struggling RP. Who has less Saves, K's and has a higher ERA, and an extremely higher WHIP.. I guess that one blown save win gives him up on one category..

2 OFs for 1 OF.. Who by himself has more HRs and SBs and is equal to both of their avgs.. it takes both of them to have more Rs and RBIs.. but being that I will have to drop someone to even get those players (most likely JD Drew) than I take a HUGE drop in those 2 categories...

So I stand corrected, I wouldnt drop in all categories.. I would increase in Blown Save Wins.
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oggy420 wrote:
dude you brought up the rankings every time too so....

he does.. and he clowns on me for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Trades:   Trades: - Page 27 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 5:39 pm

Not projections which are different
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tolivendiewithLA wrote:
Not projections which are different

and projections is stats? Those 2010 projections are done before the season starts. Hammy is coming off an injury prone season last year and Neftali is projected as a relief pitcher not a closer.. Franky Fransisco isn't even the closer for the rangers anymore but he is still projected to get 31 saves.
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PostSubject: Re: Trades:   Trades: - Page 27 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 5:48 pm

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tolivendiewithLA wrote:
2 OF for 1 OF and a RP for a RP not sure how that was a bad offer at all, let me guess Player Ranker

... More Like...

1 RP for a struggling RP. Who has less Saves, K's and has a higher ERA, and an extremely higher WHIP.. I guess that one blown save win gives him up on one category..

2 OFs for 1 OF.. Who by himself has more HRs and SBs and is equal to both of their avgs.. it takes both of them to have more Rs and RBIs.. but being that I will have to drop someone to even get those players (most likely JD Drew) than I take a HUGE drop in those 2 categories...

So I stand corrected, I wouldnt drop in all categories.. I would increase in Blown Save Wins.

Yeah right now, it's called watch what ends up happening

Gomes - 26 runs, 7 Hrs, 36 rbi, 1 sb and a .304 ave

Markakis - 23 runs, 3 Hrs, 17 rbi, 1 sb, and a .286 ave (but you think he doesn't pick it up?)

Hamilton - 35 runs, 11 Hrs, 32 rbi, 3 sb, .299 ave

Ur team is eh, ur OF could use help, you don'tt think having those 2 players would be better over the course of the season?

Lindstrom and Feliz - 13 saves now to 15 those other stats don't have a big enough effect to matter that much
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PostSubject: Re: Trades:   Trades: - Page 27 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 5:49 pm

GolbeZ wrote:
tolivendiewithLA wrote:
Not projections which are different

and projections is stats? Those 2010 projections are done before the season starts. Hammy is coming off an injury prone season last year and Neftali is projected as a relief pitcher not a closer.. Franky Fransisco isn't even the closer for the rangers anymore but he is still projected to get 31 saves.

They usually endup being 90% right, CJ Wilson was top 10 a month ago, where is he now?
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PostSubject: Re: Trades:   Trades: - Page 27 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 5:54 pm

usually when you're offered a bunch of players for one or 2 guys it's not worth it.
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PostSubject: Re: Trades:   Trades: - Page 27 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 5:56 pm

tolivendiewithLA wrote:
GolbeZ wrote:
tolivendiewithLA wrote:
2 OF for 1 OF and a RP for a RP not sure how that was a bad offer at all, let me guess Player Ranker

... More Like...

1 RP for a struggling RP. Who has less Saves, K's and has a higher ERA, and an extremely higher WHIP.. I guess that one blown save win gives him up on one category..

2 OFs for 1 OF.. Who by himself has more HRs and SBs and is equal to both of their avgs.. it takes both of them to have more Rs and RBIs.. but being that I will have to drop someone to even get those players (most likely JD Drew) than I take a HUGE drop in those 2 categories...

So I stand corrected, I wouldnt drop in all categories.. I would increase in Blown Save Wins.

Yeah right now, it's called watch what ends up happening

Gomes - 26 runs, 7 Hrs, 36 rbi, 1 sb and a .304 ave

Markakis - 23 runs, 3 Hrs, 17 rbi, 1 sb, and a .286 ave (but you think he doesn't pick it up?)

Hamilton - 35 runs, 11 Hrs, 32 rbi, 3 sb, .299 ave

Ur team is eh, ur OF could use help, you don'tt think having those 2 players would be better over the course of the season?

Lindstrom and Feliz - 13 saves now to 15 those other stats don't have a big enough effect to matter that much

No I don't. Having Hammy and keeping whoever I would have to drop to get those players will be better. Funny how you say my OF needs help and than you go after my best OF. And you didn't even try to address what my team really needs which is SP..

But I appreciate your compliment that my team is "eh" and that you are so concerned for it. So you shouldn't be upset, as you are saying, you are getting to keep the better players anway.
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PostSubject: Re: Trades:   Trades: - Page 27 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 5:57 pm

3-2 to a weak team
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PostSubject: Re: Trades:   Trades: - Page 27 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 5:59 pm

but that trade does nothing to improve his team, just gives him more ?'s if anything
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PostSubject: Re: Trades:   Trades: - Page 27 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 6:01 pm

tolivendiewithLA wrote:
GolbeZ wrote:
tolivendiewithLA wrote:
Not projections which are different

and projections is stats? Those 2010 projections are done before the season starts. Hammy is coming off an injury prone season last year and Neftali is projected as a relief pitcher not a closer.. Franky Fransisco isn't even the closer for the rangers anymore but he is still projected to get 31 saves.

They usually endup being 90% right, CJ Wilson was top 10 a month ago, where is he now?

90% right is the most ridiculous made up percentage i have ever heard.


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tolivendiewithLA wrote:
3-2 to a weak team

what is this suppose to mean?
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PostSubject: Re: Trades:   Trades: - Page 27 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 6:03 pm

GolbeZ wrote:
tolivendiewithLA wrote:
GolbeZ wrote:
tolivendiewithLA wrote:
2 OF for 1 OF and a RP for a RP not sure how that was a bad offer at all, let me guess Player Ranker

... More Like...

1 RP for a struggling RP. Who has less Saves, K's and has a higher ERA, and an extremely higher WHIP.. I guess that one blown save win gives him up on one category..

2 OFs for 1 OF.. Who by himself has more HRs and SBs and is equal to both of their avgs.. it takes both of them to have more Rs and RBIs.. but being that I will have to drop someone to even get those players (most likely JD Drew) than I take a HUGE drop in those 2 categories...

So I stand corrected, I wouldnt drop in all categories.. I would increase in Blown Save Wins.

Yeah right now, it's called watch what ends up happening

Gomes - 26 runs, 7 Hrs, 36 rbi, 1 sb and a .304 ave

Markakis - 23 runs, 3 Hrs, 17 rbi, 1 sb, and a .286 ave (but you think he doesn't pick it up?)

Hamilton - 35 runs, 11 Hrs, 32 rbi, 3 sb, .299 ave

Ur team is eh, ur OF could use help, you don'tt think having those 2 players would be better over the course of the season?

Lindstrom and Feliz - 13 saves now to 15 those other stats don't have a big enough effect to matter that much

No I don't. Having Hammy and keeping whoever I would have to drop to get those players will be better. Funny how you say my OF needs help and than you go after my best OF. And you didn't even try to address what my team really needs which is SP..

But I appreciate your compliment that my team is "eh" and that you are so concerned for it. So you shouldn't be upset, as you are saying, you are getting to keep the better players anway.

Well yeah I go after ur best OF and give 2 to in return who are both good, Gomes alone is almost equal statistically

I was just surprised you thought it was such a bad offer, I don't see it that way at all
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LA ur team is stacked right now and ur still trying to off peoples best players.
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I see Felix has been doing horrible just like you said he was, 2 great outings in a row.... and Cueto is def a stud. Gave up 8 earned runs in his last start.....
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I see Felix has been doing horrible just like you said he was, 2 great outings in a row.... and Cueto is def a stud. Gave up 8 earned runs in his last start.....

But when the trade was made he wasn't and I said it was a classic buy low, hmmm
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im just saying, i knew what was gonna happen. Felix would be great again because well... he's a great pitcher. Cueto came back down to earth because he's a WW pitcher...
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tolivendiewithLA wrote:
oggy420 wrote:
I see Felix has been doing horrible just like you said he was, 2 great outings in a row.... and Cueto is def a stud. Gave up 8 earned runs in his last start.....

But when the trade was made he wasn't and I said it was a classic buy low, hmmm

lol thats using his player rankings ... not projections. Except here its different, hmmm. Whatever is in your favor I suppose.
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PostSubject: Re: Trades:   Trades: - Page 27 EmptySun Jun 06, 2010 6:11 pm

No one really has any shot of beating LA at this point
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No I posted all their stats

My argument
"Felix is 2-4, with a 3.84 ERA and 1.45 Whip, Cueto is 4-1 with a 3.60 ERA and 1.18 Whip he's pitching really well"
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oggy420 wrote:
No one really has any shot of beating LA at this point

I play him next week I hope ur wrong LOL.
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dude the trade is done, you dont have to justify it anymore. Everyone including you know's it was not even close, but for you to insist that we are wrong and that you are right is kind of insulting. It's ok to admit it, we're way past the point of any trades getting reversed.
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He said I used Player Rater, I said I didn't.........
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